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***Official**** Sri Lanka in New Zealand 2014/2015

YorksLanka

International Debutant
Wow... a false no-ball call that would've had a wicket, It's a wonder to me that the umpire didn't call for a review on the front foot.
yes Rutherford is a lucky fella..still these things tend to even themselves out i suppose..can someone from SL please tell our "official" supporter there to shut the **** up as he is really annoying with his incessant bellowing..:@
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
And in the Australian sense of things (before they got pussies for captains like Clarke and Smith) - if you're the best bat in your side, you bat #3. Tendulkar was always sheltered at 4 behind some pretty competent batsman in Sehwag, Dravid and Gambhir.
Yeah Lara was a ***** at 4 as well.
 

Blocky

Banned
Sri Lanka have usually bowled too short all tour but this is the perfect line and length to Rutherford. He has no scoring shots to this plan and a poor defense against it. As long as they offer no width apart from bait balls it's just a waiting game.
Makes me wonder how Rutherford has had any success in first class level, considering this is the same channel you'd expect Hawke Cup bowlers to be able to hit.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Makes me wonder how Rutherford has had any success in first class level, considering this is the same channel you'd expect Hawke Cup bowlers to be able to hit.
width whore

they probably struggle to land 6 out of 6 in the right zone, and he's very very good at the dangerous 45 degree bat angle shots which means he can create width. the channel to stop him trying to score off you isn't very wide.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
rudds better be in the nets every day practising leg glances. It's free ****ing runs.
It comes down to more than just practising the shot. It's his whole technique and set up.

He doesn't get in line with the ball, preferring to stay leg side of the ball to play his shots. I do the exact same thing and similarly have no leg side game. But I play 3rd grade club cricket, not Test cricket.
 

Blocky

Banned
Yeah Lara was a ***** at 4 as well.
Except Lara batted in 43 tests at #3 and scored his highest score there, and averaged 60 there. He was only #4 when either Richardson was playing and performing at #3 or Sarwan was playing and performing at #3 - he was the first to go there when his team required it.

Tendulkar batted 0 tests at #3 - because he never needed to with Dravid there.

At the moment, Australia needs a strong #3.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Listening to the radio this morning and they're immediately scathing about Rutherford's shot selection and technique. Cutting first ball he faced even though it was close to him, not defending straight or leaving frequently enough, slashing, missing, prodding, It sounds so promising :happy:.
 

Blocky

Banned
Doull making a good point - "Who else?" - pointed out Guptill isn't seen as an opener in long form cricket.

The only one I think deserves a chance is Raval.
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
Listening to the radio this morning and they're immediately scathing about Rutherford's shot selection and technique. Cutting first ball he faced even though it was close to him, not defending straight or leaving frequently enough, slashing, missing, prodding, It sounds so promising :happy:.
the problem at the minute is that he's not only playing bad shots, he's also ****ing up the shots he's usually good at.
 

YorksLanka

International Debutant
yeah theres nowt like pressure is there, the poor lad has the world against him by the sounds of it...
edit-,responding to strawmans comment
 

Blocky

Banned
since when was Guptill a full time middle order batsman in test cricket Doully?
Since he completely stunk up the joint batting as an opener in test cricket. Probably also the fact that he's in the worst form in his limited overs cricket too.

The only advantage of Guptill is that he'll probably average 15 off 50 balls in his current form, which means he'll face more balls than Rutherford usually does.

If not Raval, there is no one else - except BMac or Williamson. Williamson they won't put up to open, BMac is considered better at #5.
 
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SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Doull making a good point - "Who else?" - pointed out Guptill isn't seen as an opener in long form cricket.

The only one I think deserves a chance is Raval.
At this stage, I'd advocate anyone who plays in any manner resembling a Test opener. Rutherford is so far away from that description. If we think he's going to score runs in May in English conditions, we're kidding ourselves.

C Prior b Broad might be the new c Guptill b Martin
 

Blocky

Banned
Someone should play back Doully's commentary about Rutherford and Latham being given a chance due to no other real options when he squarks about Wagner. Considering Wagner is the next best domestic bowler and a performing test player.

IB4 Bracewell takes no wickets in the second innings.
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
I honestly think Ruds is the worse I've seen for NZ.

The well maybe dry but it isn't this dry. Hesson's admirable backing of a player is with the wrong guy IMO.

Poor defence, poor self preservation, even poorer v spin, and only 2 attacking shots both on same side of wicket, and even his two strengths usually morph into high risk.

This isn't a high bar to replace. Flynn has ok defence, 3 or 4 shots, and OK to spin. Even Flem's theory of him being easy to tie down as is weak on the drive is ok if Flynn accepts his own limitations and adopts the "role player" role.

NB. I missed Ingram's summer/career.
 

Flem274*

123/5
If they're not going to consider Guptill and Brownlie because they're seen as middle order blokes then Papps, Flynn and Redmond are the only blokes scoring lots of runs in FC.

They don't inspire confidence so do you rennovate Rutherford's technique during the break or do you drop him and hope the above have improved if Rutherford fails here?
 

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
At this stage, I'd advocate anyone who plays in any manner resembling a Test opener. Rutherford is so far away from that description. If we think he's going to score runs in May in English conditions, we're kidding ourselves.

C Prior b Broad might be the new c Guptill b Martin
how many successful left handed batsmen in history have had zero leg side play? I'd bank on zero.
 

Blocky

Banned
At this stage, I'd advocate anyone who plays in any manner resembling a Test opener. Rutherford is so far away from that description. If we think he's going to score runs in May in English conditions, we're kidding ourselves.

C Prior b Broad might be the new c Guptill b Martin
The only way we stop that in my view is promoting either Williamson or BMac up the order and giving Latham some video footage of how Sangakarra has countered Southee and Boult in this innings by batting on off stump, leaving everything outside the line of his eyes and making them pay for being on his pads.

Get rid of Rutherford, shift everyone in the order up one - find yourself a #5 which should be easier than a #2 and be done with it.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Baz with a license to go for it is probably our best option. If he gets a start he'll put sookier bowlers off their lengths.
 

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