I readily agree with Arjun. He never got enough opportunities he deserved. as he says,Arjun said:He's hardly ever got an opportunity, with the ball in particular. In just four matches, he's got to bowl as many overs as Balaji, and he's got very good figures then. As for his batting, he may have disappointed, but he can perform a role none of the specialist batsmen can- to mount a charge on the bowling attack, particularly in the final overs. He's not very talented, but he serves a purpose, be it as a batsman, bowler or fielder. That's good enough to get him back. We find similar players playing for Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Australia, West Indies and New Zealand, so why should India not play him? Instead, we find the likes of Parthiv Patel, MSK Prasad, Deep Dasgupta, Dinesh Karthik and a very reluctant (and inept) Rahul Dravid playing as wicketkeeping all-rounders, so Bangar should be considered again.
Look at the in-form ODI teams, then the dreadfully out-of-form Indian ODI side. There is a difference in the quality of fielding. Persisting with the likes of Ganguly and Kumble would be as good as taking a backward step, and wouldn't help the team as a whole. Sure, if he gets lots of runs, that would be good for him, but not good enough for the team if the fielding gives away extra runs.dinu23 said:I agree with Pratyush. I still think Ganguly is a great ODI batsman, just look at his record. he just seems to be going through a lean period.
Even if a player gives some runs away because of fielding, he would play a crucial role if he makes runs. You are giving much more importance to fielding and much less importance to making runs.Arjun said:Look at the in-form ODI teams, then the dreadfully out-of-form Indian ODI side. There is a difference in the quality of fielding. Persisting with the likes of Ganguly and Kumble would be as good as taking a backward step, and wouldn't help the team as a whole. Sure, if he gets lots of runs, that would be good for him, but not good enough for the team if the fielding gives away extra runs.
You're talking of one-dayers here. They're not always won by five-wicket hauls or centuries. Sometimes that extra-ordinary catch, the sharp direct-hit run-out, those 50 runs saved by the fielding, the extra singles pinched and several other basic aspects can often change a match. All of these have been lacking in the current Indian side. Is it not surprising that they're at the bottom of the table, despite having someone like Ganguly, who's supposed to be a heavy run-scorer? Compare the Indian and Lankan ODI sides- it's obvious that the better fielding and running side is the better side, and by so much. Yet the people in charge don't realise it. And unfortunately, nor do many Indian fans.Pratyush said:Even if a player gives some runs away because of fielding, he would play a crucial role if he makes runs. You are giving much more importance to fielding and much less importance to making runs.
By making runs Ganguly or any one would help not just himself but the team too. Similarly for some one like Kumble.
A fielder who would be average with the bat or ball vs a good batsman or bowler who is an average or poor fielder?
The second option sounds much better.
That last swipe wasnt necessary. Just because your view does not agree with me does not mean you categorise me as an Indian fan who knows less about cricket and you as some one who knows a lot more. That is plain arrogance.Arjun said:You're talking of one-dayers here. They're not always won by five-wicket hauls or centuries. Sometimes that extra-ordinary catch, the sharp direct-hit run-out, those 50 runs saved by the fielding, the extra singles pinched and several other basic aspects can often change a match. All of these have been lacking in the current Indian side. Is it not surprising that they're at the bottom of the table, despite having someone like Ganguly, who's supposed to be a heavy run-scorer? Compare the Indian and Lankan ODI sides- it's obvious that the better fielding and running side is the better side, and by so much. Yet the people in charge don't realise it. And unfortunately, nor do many Indian fans.
How about 2 wicket and a century on a Green Top.Jono said:I agree that Ganguly still has something to offer Indian cricket in the limited overs game, but NOT as an automatic selection. He has to prove himself in domestic cricket once again.