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***Official*** Sri Lanka in India

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
marc71178 said:
Which generation would that be then?
The same generation where a certain someone claimed Harmison was the best fast bowler in the world. :)
Dasa said:
Do you always have to comment?? Why not just let the trolls be?
I know, its extremely irritating. He gives them the attention they crave.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Deja moo said:
Of course, Pathan obviously couldnt have any batting talent, could he ? :dry: If it were Flintoff on the other hand
Ever since VB Series 04 he's showed he has promising batting potential. Some people just refuse to admit it :sleep:
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Deja moo said:
Of course, Pathan obviously couldnt have any batting talent, could he ? :dry: If it were Flintoff on the other hand
Im not saying he doesnt have any talent, but I dont think he could ever be just "too good" for a good attack bowling well on a decent pitch.

He can bat, but lets face it, hes a handy lower-order player at best.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
Prince EWS said:
Im not saying he doesnt have any talent, but I dont think he could ever be just "too good" for a good attack bowling well on a decent pitch.

He can bat, but lets face it, hes a handy lower-order player at best.
I dont think so. Hes no slogger. None of his shots today, and in any innings really, have been slogs. He plays like a proper batsman with the full face of the straight bat.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Deja moo said:
I dont think so. Hes no slogger. None of his shots today, and in any innings really, have been slogs. He plays like a proper batsman with the full face of the straight bat.
I never used the word slogger. The fact that one is a lower order player does not make one a slogger.
 

C_C

International Captain
IKP has considerable batting talent.
I am surprised to see him perform decently at lower middle order in tests ( and 22-23 ave + 80+ strike rate is excellent for someone comming in at #8) but i wont be surprised if he ends up averaging 35 or so in Tests once he matures - he has a good calm head when he is batting in Tests and his technique-especially defensive technique- is superior to some top order batsmen going around in the world.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
Prince EWS said:
I never used the word slogger. The fact that one is a lower order player does not make one a slogger.
Then is it the average he might eventually end up with that you're referring to ? I guess he'll end up with 30+ in tests and 25+ in ODIs. He definitely has enough talent to be more than a lower order batsman. He just needs to curb his attacking instincts a bit more to convert those 20s ....
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Deja moo said:
Then is it the average he might eventually end up with that you're referring to ? I guess he'll end up with 30+ in tests and 25+ in ODIs. He definitely has enough talent to be more than a lower order batsman. He just needs to curb his attacking instincts a bit more to convert those 20s ....
I guess he'll end up with 30+ in tests and 25+ in ODIs.
Im guessing he'll end up in the mid 20s in both forms.

Im not saying he cant bat, but I just dont think you could ever say India were just too good when Pathan bats at number three and does what he did. There clearly have to be other circumstances, such are poor bowling, poor field-settings or flat pitches, for this to happen. Sri Lanka batted on the same pitch and did horribly, so I'd say the Sri Lankan bowling, as a whole, was poor. Especially considering every batsman seemed to enjoy it out there for India; not just Pathan.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
Prince EWS said:
Im guessing he'll end up in the mid 20s in both forms.

Im not saying he cant bat, but I just dont think you could ever say India were just too good when Pathan bats at number three and does what he did. There clearly have to be other circumstances, such are poor bowling, poor field-settings or flat pitches, for this to happen. Sri Lanka batted on the same pitch and did horribly, so I'd say the Sri Lankan bowling, as a whole, was poor. Especially considering every batsman seemed to enjoy it out there for India; not just Pathan.
Hes made 2 fifties before this one, and some under50 scores too, so I dont see why you dont give him the credit he deserves for a good innings. And its not fair to say that SL bowled horribly just because they're having problems batting on the same surface. The chances of the team batting second doing a terrible job are increased tremendously purely because they have 350 to chase. The ball is still spinning as much as it did in the first innings. It was just a brilliant attacking innings from Pathan. The Sri Lankans had no clue.
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Couple of lusty blows from Dilhara off Sehwag got Sri Lanka dreaming, but Santh cleans him up for his first ODI wicket and now it's down to Murali to save SL...... :D
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Deja moo said:
Hes made 2 fifties before this one, and some under50 scores too, so I dont see why you dont give him the credit he deserves for a good innings. And its not fair to say that SL bowled horribly just because they're having problems batting on the same surface. The chances of the team batting second doing a terrible job are increased tremendously purely because they have 350 to chase. The ball is still spinning as much as it did in the first innings. It was just a brilliant attacking innings from Pathan. The Sri Lankans had no clue.
Again though, EVERY batsman in the first innings played well and scored runs quickly. Its fair to assume that either the pitch was flat or the bowling was poor, or a mixture of both. The odds of every Indian batsman having a good day at the office on one day are slim, as are the odds of every Sri Lankan bowler having a bad day at the office. Fernando bowled pretty decently judging by his figures, but it looks to me as if the pitch was extraordinarily flat, and this has more to do with Pathan's innings than him being just "too good" for an attack containing Vaas, Murali and Fernando...

He played well, but again, I dont think it was a case of him being "too good".
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
JASON said:
I had forgotten that. But this innings brings back sad and painful memory of watching SL get smashed for 340 odd by India at Taunton in a World Cup Match in 1999. :( :( :D :D
Ganguly's innings in that game was absolutely amazing. Dravid too was brilliant. I remember that game fondly :D
 

Deja moo

International Captain
Prince EWS said:
Again though, EVERY batsman in the first innings played well and scored runs quickly. Its fair to assume that either the pitch was flat or the bowling was poor, or a mixture of both. The odds of every Indian batsman having a good day at the office on one day are slim, as are the odds of every Sri Lankan bowler having a bad day at the office. Fernando bowled pretty decently judging by his figures, but it looks to me as if the pitch was extraordinarily flat, and this has more to do with Pathan's innings than him being just "too good" for an attack containing Vaas, Murali and Fernando...

He played well, but again, I dont think it was a case of him being "too good".
Well, having watched the innings, I can do no more than hope that you catch the highlights.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Deja moo said:
Well, having watched the innings, I can do no more than hope that you catch the highlights.
I doubt I'll be able to get hold of them, unless they are uploaded somewhere on the internet, or Inside Cricket decides to show some (which is highly doubtful).
 

shaka

International Regular
well done Sachin, great return to international cricket.93 runs in a total of 350/6 in 50 overs is amazing.
 

open365

International Vice-Captain
Prince EWS said:
Again though, EVERY batsman in the first innings played well and scored runs quickly. Its fair to assume that either the pitch was flat or the bowling was poor, or a mixture of both. The odds of every Indian batsman having a good day at the office on one day are slim, as are the odds of every Sri Lankan bowler having a bad day at the office. Fernando bowled pretty decently judging by his figures, but it looks to me as if the pitch was extraordinarily flat, and this has more to do with Pathan's innings than him being just "too good" for an attack containing Vaas, Murali and Fernando...

He played well, but again, I dont think it was a case of him being "too good".

the pitch has nothing to do with it.

india were the better side,they're batsman played well not because the pitch was special but because they were good players.
chasing 350 in 50 overs is almost imposible so its no suprise that sri lanaka collapsed.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
india were the better side,they're batsman played well not because the pitch was special but because they were good players.
The fact that NONE of the Indian batsmen struggled, and they ALL fired on the one day, including one who averages in the mid-twenties and is regarded as a bowler who can bat a bit, makes that hard to believe.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Prince EWS said:
Im guessing he'll end up in the mid 20s in both forms.

Im not saying he cant bat, but I just dont think you could ever say India were just too good when Pathan bats at number three and does what he did. There clearly have to be other circumstances, such are poor bowling, poor field-settings or flat pitches, for this to happen. Sri Lanka batted on the same pitch and did horribly, so I'd say the Sri Lankan bowling, as a whole, was poor. Especially considering every batsman seemed to enjoy it out there for India; not just Pathan.
Actually, I just think that SRi Lanka were sort of stunned by the relentless attack of the INdians. In any ODI game, you expect people to attack when the field restrictions are on, but today, the Indians just kept going, even when the restrictions were lifted. Obviously, Pathan had a big part to play in it because of his clean hitting of the spinners. Sri Lanka rely very heavily on good tight spin bowling from guys like Chandana, Dilshan, even Arnold and (if fit) Jayasuriya to complement the big two and the other seamers, especially in the middle overs. The fact that the attack was taken to them today in the middle overs maybe just shocked them and put them away from their usual game plan. I would put it down to good strategising by the INdian team management more than anything else and of course, credit to Sachin and Pathan for making it work, with a bit of luck, obviously.
 

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