No. Yes. Yes (when fit). No. No. Yes. Maybe.grecian said:Mascharenas, Bopara, Tudor, Benning, Foster, Read and Tremlett must come into consideration now.
Colly has played about 100 ODIs, right ? Tell me how many matches he has won or even contributed significantly to a win ? The fact that England have regulars like him, make England a poor ODI team.aussie said:ok he hasn't in a while but i don't know if you have been watching Collingwood over the past year, but his value to England's very inconsistent OD side is second to none.
He's been Man of the Match 6 times out of 94.Sanz said:Colly has played about 100 ODIs, right ? Tell me how many matches he has won or even contributed significantly to a win ? The fact that England have regulars like him, make England a poor ODI team.
Collingwood has contributed signifcantly to England win in the past see here, here, here, and hereSanz said:Colly has played about 100 ODIs, right ? Tell me how many matches he has won or even contributed significantly to a win ? The fact that England have regulars like him, make England a poor ODI team.
I saw last two games, He did make solid contributions, but did he actually win the game ? NO. Now check KP, Tresco and Freddie, you will see them taking the match away on their own. I am not saying Colly is a garbage player, I am saying is that @ best he is a role player someone like Today's Md. Kaif. He can make decent contributions once in a while or steady the innings when things are down, but hardly win a game for your team. I simply dont consider him anywhere close to Tresco , KP and Freddie.aussie said:Collingwood has contributed signifcantly to England win in the past see here, here, here, and here
Plus their have been other performances such as the one today where he has made runs but becuase overall England have done badly they have lost anyway. Collingwood is by no means a garbabage player like how you are making him out to be, along with Flintoff, Tresocothick & Pietersen he is one of England best ODI performers.
When we only have 1 batsman capable of hitting boundaries then it is.Scaly piscine said:Wish Gooch would shut up on TMS, he seems to think anything over 7 an over is impossible over the last 10.
So Plunkett will also be dropped then.Scaly piscine said:Bye bye, Mahmood, see you again when you can bowl 6 on the cut bit.
Tudor?!grecian said:Collingwoods a "finisher" who never finishes, him and Geraint Jones are consistently rubbish when it matters
Mascharenas, Bopara, Tudor, Benning, Foster, Read and Tremlett must come into consideration now.
Is Chapple fit then?superkingdave said:Side for Saturday?
Tresco
Strauss
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Dalrymple
Chapple
Jones
Bresnan
Plunkett
Harmison
not much we can do to change it really. Since im at OT next Wed it would be nice if the series was still live, but im not counting on it
marc71178 said:Tudor?!
Why exactly?
England selectors must pick Gough and Glen Chapple over Mahmood and Plunkett, IMO.superkingdave said:Side for Saturday?
Tresco
Strauss
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Dalrymple
Chapple
Jones
Bresnan
Plunkett
Harmison
not much we can do to change it really. Since im at OT next Wed it would be nice if the series was still live, but im not counting on it
The same argument that you have aimed at Collingwood can be aimed at every single England player.Sanz said:I saw last two games, He did make solid contributions, but did he actually win the game ? NO. Now check KP, Tresco and Freddie, you will see them taking the match away on their own. I am not saying Colly is a garbage player, I am saying is that @ best he is a role player someone like Today's Md. Kaif. He can make decent contributions once in a while or steady the innings when things are down, but hardly win a game for your team. I simply dont consider him anywhere close to Tresco , KP and Freddie.
Why Gough, for goodness sake?JASON said:England selectors must pick Gough and Glen Chapple over Mahmood and Plunkett, IMO.
That will give England still a chance of winning this series , which has nearly slipped out of their reach and Saturday is a must win game for England . Others to consider ? Owais Shah .
Essex are the new Surrey?marc71178 said:Tudor?!
Why exactly?
luckyeddie said:The same argument that you have aimed at Collingwood can be aimed at every single England player.
KP a winner?
In his entire international career, he has scored 50 or more on 12 occasions, three times passing a century. How many of those games did England win?
3.
What a loser, only ever scores runs in a losing cause.