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***Official** South Africa v India in Ireland
- Thread starter James
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Ganguly, since his return, averages 70+ in ODIs. 8 50's in 12 innings, amassing 709 runs.
Comes in as an opener, so very few not outs to boost the average (2 of 12 knocks are unbeaten).
Given the alacrity with which his opening partners give up their wickets (Sehwag, Uthapa and today Sachin), think we can live with his mid 70's strike rate.
Comes in as an opener, so very few not outs to boost the average (2 of 12 knocks are unbeaten).
Given the alacrity with which his opening partners give up their wickets (Sehwag, Uthapa and today Sachin), think we can live with his mid 70's strike rate.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
I don't mean to be a Tendulkar fan boy but everyone lay off him, he scored a bad score and has been subject to criticism lately, everyone knows that, including him, it need not be reiterated.
Onto the match, I had a school match so I only saw bits of it. I think Sreesanth needs to adapt his bowling more for the One Day game, he takes wickets, but at a too large cost and goes for far too many runs per over, nearing six on average. Adding slower balls to his repatoir as well as learning not to bowl length at the death would be good places to start.
RP Singh got bounce and swing and got competant figures as a result. Agarkar had amazing figures, going for under 3 an over and picking up a wicket. His brisk, full swingers can be tough to get away but also can be picked off as half volleys often by good teams. He is in great form recently though and the former has been occuring more and more recently. Hopefully he can keep it up.
Chawla bowled very well, a good leg break and a strong spinning googly had the Irishmen foxed. However, he should increase his accuracy in order to use the googly more rarely and consequently to better effect.
The chase was extremely competant with safe batting (for the most part) and keeping 1/5 of a run above the req rate was a smart thing to do. Ganguly's exceptional ODI form since his comeback continues and Gambhir cements his place in the team, hopefully in place of Tendulkar as opener with Tendulkar dropping down the order.
Onto the lesser seen aspects, I think Ireland fielded well and also that Karthik should not play in ODIs unless he keeps (which he does well). His List A record is average to say the least and he does not score fast. Rohit Sharma was given some international exposure and this is good.
Onto the match, I had a school match so I only saw bits of it. I think Sreesanth needs to adapt his bowling more for the One Day game, he takes wickets, but at a too large cost and goes for far too many runs per over, nearing six on average. Adding slower balls to his repatoir as well as learning not to bowl length at the death would be good places to start.
RP Singh got bounce and swing and got competant figures as a result. Agarkar had amazing figures, going for under 3 an over and picking up a wicket. His brisk, full swingers can be tough to get away but also can be picked off as half volleys often by good teams. He is in great form recently though and the former has been occuring more and more recently. Hopefully he can keep it up.
Chawla bowled very well, a good leg break and a strong spinning googly had the Irishmen foxed. However, he should increase his accuracy in order to use the googly more rarely and consequently to better effect.
The chase was extremely competant with safe batting (for the most part) and keeping 1/5 of a run above the req rate was a smart thing to do. Ganguly's exceptional ODI form since his comeback continues and Gambhir cements his place in the team, hopefully in place of Tendulkar as opener with Tendulkar dropping down the order.
Onto the lesser seen aspects, I think Ireland fielded well and also that Karthik should not play in ODIs unless he keeps (which he does well). His List A record is average to say the least and he does not score fast. Rohit Sharma was given some international exposure and this is good.
Jungle Jumbo
International Vice-Captain
On a windy, damp day in Belfast, Ireland’s sun-blest Caribbean escapades of little over two months ago must have felt a world away as they were soundly thrashed by India by nine wickets. Sourav Ganguly and Gautam Gambhir showed the efficient, machine-like qualities associated with the Asian one-day game to cruise home against a diet of unthreatening Irish bowling after the hosts had struggled to a disappointing 193 all out.
Lacking several key players – including number three Eoin Morgan – Ireland required a big innings from one of the top order after being inserted by Rahul Dravid, but none was forthcoming. Sreesanth, RP Singh and Ajit Agarkar all produced enough movement with the new ball early on in helpful conditions to account for the Irish top three and from that point onwards the home side looked out of the game.
Once Sreesanth had removed both Kenneth Carroll and Dominick Joyce and Agarkar slipped a yorker through William Porterfield’s defences, Ireland found their backs pressed firmly against the wall. Piyush Chawla, the rookie legspinner who was so impressive in Bangladesh, then exposed Ireland’s lack of exposure to genuine wrist-spin bowling. Unveiling the full extent of his armoury, Chawla’s topspinner bowled Gary Wilson, while a top-edged googly was to be the end for Kevin O’Brien.
The only real resistance for Ireland came through Niall O’Brien, one of the few World Cup heroes on show. Just as he had done against Pakistan in the memorable Sabina Park giant killing, O’Brien dropped anchor and showed the application which brought him so many plaudits in the World Cup, yet he could only watch as the wickets tumbled around him. From 83-5, Ireland’s total of 193 was something of a recovery, made possible largely thanks to O’Brien, who eventually gave Rohit Sharma his first ODI catch after a 79-ball 52. Captain Trent Johnson’s 34, full of lusty blows, was the only other significant contribution as Sachin Tendulkar finished off the innings with his 150th wicket.
Despite the loss of an early wicket – Roger Whelan, on debut, claiming the prize scalp of Tendulkar for four – the result was never in doubt with the sheer depth and quality of India’s batting reserves. Chasing a revised target of 171 from 39 overs following rain during the lunch interval, Ganguly and Gambhir simply desiccated an Irish attack compromising mostly of gentle medium-pacer and finger-spin. Gambhir was ruthless on anything slightly wide; Ganguly, at his regal best, was Maharajah-like on the front-foot. Together they added 163 – Ganguly finishing on 73 from 99 balls, Gambhir on 80 from 107 – as India romped home with more overs four overs to spare.
Lacking several key players – including number three Eoin Morgan – Ireland required a big innings from one of the top order after being inserted by Rahul Dravid, but none was forthcoming. Sreesanth, RP Singh and Ajit Agarkar all produced enough movement with the new ball early on in helpful conditions to account for the Irish top three and from that point onwards the home side looked out of the game.
Once Sreesanth had removed both Kenneth Carroll and Dominick Joyce and Agarkar slipped a yorker through William Porterfield’s defences, Ireland found their backs pressed firmly against the wall. Piyush Chawla, the rookie legspinner who was so impressive in Bangladesh, then exposed Ireland’s lack of exposure to genuine wrist-spin bowling. Unveiling the full extent of his armoury, Chawla’s topspinner bowled Gary Wilson, while a top-edged googly was to be the end for Kevin O’Brien.
The only real resistance for Ireland came through Niall O’Brien, one of the few World Cup heroes on show. Just as he had done against Pakistan in the memorable Sabina Park giant killing, O’Brien dropped anchor and showed the application which brought him so many plaudits in the World Cup, yet he could only watch as the wickets tumbled around him. From 83-5, Ireland’s total of 193 was something of a recovery, made possible largely thanks to O’Brien, who eventually gave Rohit Sharma his first ODI catch after a 79-ball 52. Captain Trent Johnson’s 34, full of lusty blows, was the only other significant contribution as Sachin Tendulkar finished off the innings with his 150th wicket.
Despite the loss of an early wicket – Roger Whelan, on debut, claiming the prize scalp of Tendulkar for four – the result was never in doubt with the sheer depth and quality of India’s batting reserves. Chasing a revised target of 171 from 39 overs following rain during the lunch interval, Ganguly and Gambhir simply desiccated an Irish attack compromising mostly of gentle medium-pacer and finger-spin. Gambhir was ruthless on anything slightly wide; Ganguly, at his regal best, was Maharajah-like on the front-foot. Together they added 163 – Ganguly finishing on 73 from 99 balls, Gambhir on 80 from 107 – as India romped home with more overs four overs to spare.
OK. Here is a good one. Listen carefully:
A phone call came into the Ten-done-ulkar house.
Anjali: Hello
Caller: Is Sachin there ?
Anjali: Can you please hold a minute - he just went out to back and should be right back !
yeah 700 posts almost exclusively bashing tendulkar...you have to admire his unwavering devotion to the subject...
, in his own way, i think he obsesses about the guy more than most tendulkar fans...
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alternative
Cricket Web Content Updater
What can i say?
Ganguly is just a gun IMO
Ganguly is just a gun IMO
andyc
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Fiery
Banned
Kinda killed your own punchline there fella...otherwise it would have been hilarious, even the 48th time I've heard itOK. Here is a good one. Listen carefully:
A phone call came into the Ten-done-ulkar house.
Anjali: Hello
Caller: Is Sachin there ?
Anjali: Can you please hold a minute - he just went out to back and should be right back !
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Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
India are 4th in the Test rankings and 6th in the ODI rankings. Please explain to me how that is "pretty much the bottom".For Whelan and bowlers vrs Ten-done-ulkar ? Yes !
Now you know why India is pretty much at the BOTTOM of the test and one-day tables. Because fans just don't hold their cricketers accountable. And from the bottom they are the highest paid in the world. Great gig if u can get it.
Raghav
International Vice-Captain
For the cricketers who are highly paid and who are told be a side of great talent......sixth rank in ODI's is not the place to be there.....
Raghav
International Vice-Captain
"Pretty much the bottom" differs from side to side......Suppose if aus are placed at sixth, I say they are placed at bottom......
It diifers on team capabilities
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No it doesn't, 6th out of 12 teams isn't "pretty much the bottom", it is halfway.
Raghav
International Vice-Captain
When you are paying high amount on your cricketers and when the expectation out of them is very much higher (considering they are highly talented guys), 6th place is not for what they are paid for and its not for what average Indian cricket fan expects out of them.
We should start thinking 6th out of 9 (the creamy teams) .....as Bang, Zim, Ken,,,sides must be thought as a get over teams...(hardly they surprise and that would not change your ranking a big margin)