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***Official*** South Africa in New Zealand 2017

vandem

State Captain
For those who haven't seen the Neesham wicket:

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Radio commentary team (including Saffer Manthorp) 100% sure that it should have been a no-ball, their explanation is either (1) 3rd ump made a mistake about application of the law, or (2) there is another camera angle which creates doubt, e.g. angle from behind the bowler, in which case they suggest that the 3rd ump has made a mistake by not basing the decision on the side on freeze frame.

IMHO, in the linked image in Straw Man's post above, foot is in the air.

Edit, explanation of (1), the law says ""bowler’s front foot must land with some part of the foot, whether grounded or raised [...] behind the popping crease" and the commentators think 3rd ump thought "I can't tell if raised part of the foot is on the line or behind, so I'm not going to overule the on-field ump" but the radio commentators (and me) think the correct logic should have been "I can't tell if the raised part of the foot is behind the line, so it's a no-ball".
 
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Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Good recovery after what sounds like a bit of bad luck for Neesh. But all the same it's still only evens at lunch. One dismissal after the break and the whole innings could come unzipped very quickly. Really need Kane to knuckle down and make a big one.
 

91Jmay

International Coach
Yeah that looks a no ball. Williamson a class apart as usual. I waiver back and forth on him vs Smith as number 1 in world.
 

The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
I actually think the no ball call was a good decision. The front of the foot was well planted, and the heel like a millimetre in front of the line. So surely as the foot planted into the turf it dragged and the heel would have been behind at first touch.

The decision does highlight how totally impossible it is for an on-field umpire to accurately call a close no ball, though.
 

The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
My partner's brothers have come to visit and they're using our TV for video games at the moment - what's this about?
The umpires had gloves brought out due to the cold weather, and the commentators started saying would the third umpire have gloves too. Then Richardson says well he's got a blindfold. Cut to Tucker right as he says it, and Tucker just bursts out in laughter, volume on his tv obviously up! Covers up his ears, then his eyes. Was hilarious.
 

Zinzan

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For those who haven't seen the Neesham wicket:

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I actually think the no ball call was a good decision. The front of the foot was well planted, and the heel like a millimetre in front of the line. So surely as the foot planted into the turf it dragged and the heel would have been behind at first touch.

The decision does highlight how totally impossible it is for an on-field umpire to accurately call a close no ball, though.
The interpretation is supposed to be that part of the foot is clearly behind the line when the foot touches. it wasn't clear at all in that freeze-frame. Poor decision.
 

The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
The interpretation is supposed to be that part of the foot is clearly behind the line when the foot touches. it wasn't clear at all in that freeze-frame. Poor decision.
I'd say it's impossible to tell with this one, unless you had the super slow-mo camera on the front foot. But each to their own. :)
 

Zinzan

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Ahh ***.

One of KW's best knocks though. Well played, unlikely we're getting much of a lead now.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Santner, Wagner, Boult, going to really struggle against the new ball. Awful time to lose Williamson unfortunately.
 

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