***Official*** South Africa in New Zealand 2017

[Athlai]

Henry also killed the aussies in last year's CH.

I have no memory whatsoever of these games, we had an ODI attack of Henry, Milne, Bracewell, Sodhi and Elliott? Woooow

 

[Neil Young]

When you average like 10 in the last two years that's almost champagne worthy.

Indeed. He'll be the toast of Mike Hesson.

 

[Zinzan]

Probably one of our greatest ODI knocks ever. Made especially awesome by how little he wanted to run in that last over so he casually launched Tahir into orbit twice.

Arguably has 3 of NZ's top 5 all-time ODI knocks now.

How easily did he play Tahir though, that was the most impressive thing. Tahir looked petrified of him towards the end.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Didn't Henry kill a weak Sri Lankan batting lineup and has otherwise bowled pretty awfully?

he's bowled consistently well with the new ball and awfully at the death. As opposed to southee who has just been consistently poor all around, for a much longer period. At this stage it almost doesn't matter because southee needs a massive kick up the butt.

 

[burr]

Wow, sounds like some innings. In a run chase too. Well done.

 

[StephenZA]

Great innings and come back from Guptill.... these games could have been very different if he had not been injured for the first 4.

Well done to NZ on a great win.

 

[Daemon]

AB diving for the last ball there when there's 2 to win from 30 was nice to see. Love the man.

 

[Grasshopper]

Great innings and come back from Guptill.... these games could have been very different if he had not been injured for the first 4.

Well done to NZ on a great win.

Yes, that was a terrific innings from Guptill. Good knock from Taylor as well, in the winning partnership.

 

[hendrix]

he's bowled consistently well with the new ball and awfully at the death. As opposed to southee who has just been consistently poor all around, for a much longer period. At this stage it almost doesn't matter because southee needs a massive kick up the butt.

To be fair to Southee, he has taken on a lot of the death bowling roles and has by-and-large bowled when it wasn't a good time to be bowling. He still should be dropped but I just wanted to point that out.

 

[Heboric]

Great knock by Guptill.

Proteas should only play 2 of - Andile, Pretorious, Morris, Parnell - nothing more

 

[Daemon]

Duminy's got to go surely.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Wow going to watch the highlights of guptill's innings

 

[StephenZA]

Duminy's got to go surely.

He is unlikely to go before the Champions... De Bruyn should come in for Duminy but won`t happen. SA need an extra strike bowler back and must only play 2 of the allrounders, come on Morkel.

 

[Howe_zat]

When I saw NZ had chased it 3 down, with Ronchi batting five, I convinced myself it's time to bump Howsie's thread about him

The Howsie magic has to happen soon, right

 

[Bahseph]

The Protea attack is really missing another strike bowler. More specifically a consistent one. Rabada and Tahir are locks, but Phehlukwayo, Parnell and Morris are too inconsistent.

While Pretorious lacks pace which makes him easier to line up on flat tracks. If they pick Philander for the CT it won't dent the batting depth and he could be dangerous upfront.

 

[Energetic]

Evenly matched sides. Final game will finally prove whether New Zealand are actually unstoppable at home. New Zealand are much hard to beat at tests then in limited overs I feel.

 

[SteveNZ]

Sorry if I've missed the boat but surely there's a strong train of thought that AB needs to bat at 4? Can't at all see the logic of a guy who averages 54 coming out with more than half the overs gone. Surely you want the influence of your best player a spot higher, giving him as many overs to bat. I know he's a freak at the death but surely the rule of comparative advantage adds up to him batting 4, controlling the game and the likes of Pretorius, Morris, Parnell and another 5 other than Duminy if desired doing the finishing.

 

[Moss]

Godly innings from Guptill and for mine certainly up there with such beauties as the Fleming 134 at Joburg, Cairns 102 at Nairobi et al.

I did think NZ winning and in such style overshadowed a questionable selection which I would hope is a one off. Of course it was discussed in the thread at the start of the match, but had NZ lost I think the management's decision to play Patel over Sodhi would have come much more into focus. Fair play to Jeets for doing his bit, but wow, what sort of a message does it send.

 

[StephenZA]

Sorry if I've missed the boat but surely there's a strong train of thought that AB needs to bat at 4? Can't at all see the logic of a guy who averages 54 coming out with more than half the overs gone. Surely you want the influence of your best player a spot higher, giving him as many overs to bat. I know he's a freak at the death but surely the rule of comparative advantage adds up to him batting 4, controlling the game and the likes of Pretorius, Morris, Parnell and another 5 other than Duminy if desired doing the finishing.

AB is batting 5 because Duminy struggles batting at 5/6 and tends to do better at 4. Silly but that is the way it is. Other issue is that SA have good top order batsmen domestically, but few finishers at 6 other than Behardien who has been pretty good in the finishing role generally..... but its Behardien.

SA keep getting into problems which AB has to get us out... but would the problems exist if AB came in at 4 rather than Duminy. He scores so quickly that he just takes pressure of the other batsmen...

But I can`t see anything changing at the moment.

 

[Burner]

AB is batting 5 because Duminy struggles batting at 5/6 and tends to do better at 4. Silly but that is the way it is. Other issue is that SA have good top order batsmen domestically, but few finishers at 6 other than Behardien who has been pretty good in the finishing role generally..... but its Behardien.

SA keep getting into problems which AB has to get us out... but would the problems exist if AB came in at 4 rather than Duminy. He scores so quickly that he just takes pressure of the other batsmen...

But I can`t see anything changing at the moment.

If Duminy can't hack it at 5, he needs to be told to **** right off imo. AB is already batting too low at number 4, and now he's batting at 5 !? Presposterous.