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*Official* South Africa in India
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
not with this line up though..
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
NasserFan207
International Vice-Captain
You never know. India might have a Kallis/Amla partnership (though its very unlikely). Hows the weather front?
Matt79
Hall of Fame Member
What does that emoticon signify, besides a fat marshmallow guy dancing?Dhoni say bye bye to unbeaten record
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
NO, by batting again, you are only gonna bat till 250 at max... And it MIGHT take 3 or 4 hours of batting.. And there is always the chance of a collapse.. Who knows, Mishy might have got them big spinning ones to take the edge this time..
But now, they have a great chance.. bowlers with their tails up, batsmen mentally down... It would be foolish not to have enforced the follow on..
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
It’s weak in regard to experience but Murali and Submarine are there or there abouts. People on here have been championing the latter for donkey's years and at time overs the likes of Dravid (!) and Laxman. Whilst even if you stick VVS in there, if you go by what he averages against South Africa particularly at home then there is no point of him even coming to the crease. The only ringer is Saha and he was batting 7.haha Gtfo
This is the worst batting line-up India have put out in many years.
ret
International Debutant
In a way, it's good that they played Saha as my gut feeling was they should have gone in with 5 bowlers esp when Rohit got injured .... If Saha does well it will be good for Ind, if he doesn't then at least the team management will look in to their theory of going in with 7 batsmen no matter what
7 batsmen theory is good if you have some match winning bowlers. It's esp dire if you go in with 2 pacers + 2 spinners on a pitch that doesn't turn from Day 1/2 as that attack is neither here nor there type in most scenarios i.e. flat pitches, sporting pitches, etc. With 2 pacers, if one of them is off, the 2nd one has to put in a lot of effort. At 6/2, we probably needed to attack more with the pace but with no option had to bring the spinners in who are not that effective on day 1. You need some depth pace dept when pitches don't turn from day 1
If they want to play 2 specialist spinners (on pitches that don't turn from Day 1/2) then they should look to play a pace bowling all-rounder at #7 or go in with 5 bowlers, imo .... Instead of playing 3 seamers only when the wkt is green, may be we should be playing 2 spinners only if the pitch is an absolute turner esp considering our spinners inability to be effectibe when there is not much for them in the pitch
All these little things from squad selection to playing 11 get highlighed when you play a strong team with an inexperienced line up
7 batsmen theory is good if you have some match winning bowlers. It's esp dire if you go in with 2 pacers + 2 spinners on a pitch that doesn't turn from Day 1/2 as that attack is neither here nor there type in most scenarios i.e. flat pitches, sporting pitches, etc. With 2 pacers, if one of them is off, the 2nd one has to put in a lot of effort. At 6/2, we probably needed to attack more with the pace but with no option had to bring the spinners in who are not that effective on day 1. You need some depth pace dept when pitches don't turn from day 1
If they want to play 2 specialist spinners (on pitches that don't turn from Day 1/2) then they should look to play a pace bowling all-rounder at #7 or go in with 5 bowlers, imo .... Instead of playing 3 seamers only when the wkt is green, may be we should be playing 2 spinners only if the pitch is an absolute turner esp considering our spinners inability to be effectibe when there is not much for them in the pitch
All these little things from squad selection to playing 11 get highlighed when you play a strong team with an inexperienced line up
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aussie
Hall of Fame Member
If IND wanted or wants to really maintain ranking as # 1, this was a perfect oppurtunity for their back-up to the BIG 4 to step up. Just like the many times when AUS batting replacements used to come in & look the part. So this performance leaves a black spot..haha Gtfo
This is the worst batting line-up India have put out in many years.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
No, but they never had to debut all together. There was always quite a bit of experience around to help out the new comer.. This is 3 in one shot and 1 of them is not even the best specialist batsman in his FC side...
ret
International Debutant
Dale Steyn credits ball change before tea | Cricket News | India v South Africa 2009/10 | Cricinfo.com
^ ah ha that explains the reverse. But credit to Steyn for making good use of it
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!
India will never be as good as Aust 2004!
We never claimed it will. You don't have toe be one of the best ever to be the best of the current time!!!
And FFS we have Badrinath, Vijay and Saha!
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah, so many people in this thread have completely missed the reason Saha is playing. It's not just that Dravid, Yuvraj and Laxman are injured, or even just that Dravid, Yuvraj, Laxman and Rohit are injured - it's that all those players are injured and he was the only "batsman" left at the ground. If the selectors made a list of the best twenty Indian batsmen, I highly doubt Saha would be in it.
On top of that, Badrinath actually batted well. Vijay failed, but I hardly think one bad game from one batsman is a "black spot" in terms of their ability to maintain their batting strength long-term.
Sir Alex
Banned
Hmm.. Australia slipped to No.4 from No.1 in a amtter of 2 years since their main guys departed right?
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
It'd be like Australia playing Manou as a specialist bat
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Its just Badrinath & that other guy debuting together. Vijay debuted vs AUS 08. You still have Sehwa, Gambhir, Tendy, Dhoni to lend that experience.
They where a good few times when AUS had similar situations where they had a few debutants having to replace big players & did well almost immediately.
Yes that Saha bloke is not part of INDs batting depth. But this is the thing with IND cricket for me in all my years of watching them. Outside of the BIG 4 & Ganguly/Azharuddin, everytime in the last 15-20 when a replacement batsman has come in for one of those 6 for injury etc - the backup is either not good, looks nervy or doesn't live up to his FC batting hype. Ajay Sharma, Amre, Bhardwaj, Karthink, Badani, Kanitkar, Jadeja, Kambli, Kaif
So for me although the likes of Badrinath, Vijay, Kohli, Sharma, Raina, Pujara, Yuvraj, Panday constitues the hottest young batting talent in the world ATM. It will be interesting not only for IND ambtions to hold on to # 1 ranking. But in the lorn term to see how these young cats in the next decade step up in tests as the BIG 3 retire.
Sir Alex
Banned
By losing in India, in England, to SA?
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah, that's exactly what it'd be like actually.It'd be like Australia playing Manou as a specialist bat
To be more specific, it'd be like Australia playing Manou as a specialist bat, Manou getting a duck, Australia trailing in their first innings and then Precambrian coming into a thread to claim that Australia's backup batting was crap and that they'd struggle when the current lot retired.
Which, to be fair, is probably exactly what would happen if Manou played as a specialist bat.