***Official*** South Africa In Australia

[Son Of Coco]

well its clearly not, Im just waiting for that day to come. Im not sure why he doesnt go around the wicket, and actually try to get the batsmen out. I genuinely dislike bowlers who dont bowl on the stumps, the game is meant to have bowlers try to get the batsmen out while batsmen look to score runs.

That's probably because you don't have to bowl on the stumps to get a batsman out. If you bowl on the stumps all the time it's generally too straight.

 

[pasag]

Woot! Never expected this.

 

[Top_Cat]

Horrie!

Love how the backup bowlers are doing the damage here. And mainly through just building pressure too, nothing fancy, Saffies in deep poo now.

 

[Top_Cat]

That's probably because you don't have to bowl on the stumps to get a batsman out. If you bowl on the stumps all the time it's generally too straight.

Especially if you're a leftie who moves the ball away generally. Batsmen will just work you off their hips all day..

 

[Son Of Coco]

Awesome...although probably not for Krezja!

 

[Mister Wright]

Great bowling from Hauritz. Has a chance to rip through the tail here.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Especially if you're a leftie who moves the ball away generally. Batsmen will just work you off their hips all day..

Exactly, even a right-hander has to be careful about how straight he becomes when bowling. Given McGrath rarely pitched on stumps he did alright.

 

[tooextracool]

Off the planet. You seriously expect anyone to believe that batsmen, Test batsmen no less, are getting out to him just because they've never or rarely faced bowling of his type?

The angle that he generates at his pace makes it difficult for players to score runs against him. He doesnt do anything special to take wickets, he pitches the ball outside off stump and it goes wider. Then when he gets really adventurous, he pitches the ball on off stump and bowls an off cutter which guess what? goes wider still. Sorry,how is this good bowling?

 

[Son Of Coco]

The angle that he generates at his pace makes it difficult for players to score runs against him. He doesnt do anything special to take wickets, he pitches the ball outside off stump and it goes wider. Then when he gets really adventurous, he pitches the ball on off stump and bowls an off cutter which guess what? goes wider still. Sorry,how is this good bowling?

Assuming the second ball is disguised slightly it's not a bad variation to have.

 

[tooextracool]

That's probably because you don't have to bowl on the stumps to get a batsman out. If you bowl on the stumps all the time it's generally too straight.

Its not a question of bowling on the stumpps ALL the time. However, when a bowler NEVER bowls on the stumps theres some serious questions to be asked.

 

[Top_Cat]

The angle that he generates at his pace makes it difficult for players to score runs against him. He doesnt do anything special to take wickets, he pitches the ball outside off stump and it goes wider. Then when he gets really adventurous, he pitches the ball on off stump and bowls an off cutter which guess what? goes wider still. Sorry,how is this good bowling?

Vastly over-simplifying what he's doing but can't be bothered.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Its not a question of bowling on the stumpps ALL the time. However, when a bowler NEVER bowls on the stumps theres some serious questions to be asked.

As I said...like McGrath?

Not suggesting Johnson is even in the league below Mcgrath by the way

 

[tooextracool]

Especially if you're a leftie who moves the ball away generally. Batsmen will just work you off their hips all day..

Which is why you go around the wicket. You dont have to bowl on the stumps, heck you just got to threaten to hit the stumps and that itself will result in wickets consistently if you bowl well enough

 

[Son Of Coco]

Which is why you go around the wicket. You dont have to bowl on the stumps, heck you just got to threaten to hit the stumps and that itself will result in wickets consistently if you bowl well enough

In which case, if you don't move it at all like you say, instead of having an angle to work with you know become straight?

 

[tooextracool]

As I said...like McGrath?

Not suggesting Johnson is even in the league below Mcgrath by the way

Difference being that Mcgrath always threatened the stumps. Even when he bowled outside the off stump, you knew he had the ability to get the ball to come back and hit the stumps. This is clearly not the case with Johnson. As I said earlier, if Mcgrath didnt hit the stumps then theres little explanation as to how he has almost 200 wickets with bowled and lbws.

 

[inbox24]

As I said...like McGrath?

Not suggesting Johnson is even in the league below Mcgrath by the way

Yes you're right, Johnson is about 20,000 leagues below McGrath.

 

[inbox24]

That wicket must've been Hauriffic for Boucher.

 

[Prince EWS]

Which is why you go around the wicket. You dont have to bowl on the stumps, heck you just got to threaten to hit the stumps and that itself will result in wickets consistently if you bowl well enough

Or, don't do it, and take wickets consistently anyway.

I don't like watching Johnson bowl at all but he's been pretty damn effective; it's not like he's been a flop and needs to completely change his line of thinking. Whatever your take on how or why, he's been very good at Test level barring that little period in the West Indies where he just lost it. His career so far has been just too long to put down to fluke or batsmen not being used to him.

 

[tooextracool]

Or, don't do it, and take wickets consistently anyway.

I don't like watching Johnson bowl at all but he's been pretty damn effective; it's not like he's been a flop and needs to completely change his line of thinking. Whatever your take on how or why, he's been very good at Test level barring that little period in the West Indies where he just lost it. His career so far has been just too long to put down to fluke or batsmen not being used to him.

Hes had one good test series in his whole career, so the word 'consistently' is once again being misused. Its not particularly surprising that SA havent played him before and its also not surprising that NZ hadnt played him before either. Perhaps if he added some variations he might be very good but its hard to see how hes done well so far his career.

 

[Mister Wright]

Hauritz has really helped Ponting with his rotation of the quick bowlers. Has bowled economically and has taken 2 big wickets, and maintained pressure for wickets at the other end. Excellent display from Hauritz. Pleasing to see.