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***Official*** South Africa in Australia 2012

Teja.

Teja.

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Just quietly,

Philander's first series where he is not the bowler with the best results on either side and also his first one where he has been out-performed by that **** Steyn.

Eagerly waiting for NZ at Home, IMO.
 
Daemon

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Teja. said:
Just quietly,

Philander's first series where he is not the bowler with the best results on either side and also his first one where he has been out-performed by that **** Steyn.

Eagerly waiting for NZ at Home, IMO.
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you're dead to me ftr
 
Teja.

Teja.

Global Moderator
Haha, nah. Love them both. Was just growing an attachment to that particular Philander streak.
 
Satyanash89

Satyanash89

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Teja. said:
Just quietly,

Philander's first series where he is not the bowler with the best results on either side and also his first one where he has been out-performed by that **** Steyn.

Eagerly waiting for NZ at Home, IMO.
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Steyn bowled > Phil in England too... got more wickets...averages be damned
 
Senile Sentry

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
It's an almighty thumping, and in a befitting fashion SA has retained their hold on the mace. The last two holders proved to be just pretenders, but SA looks the real deal. Yes, it could have been easily 1-1 but for Faf's unbelievable performance in the 2nd test, but then that's what demarcates the winners from the also rans, ability to swallow and grind when required. This was sorely lacking in Australia's approach in the 2nd innings though. No focus, no application, perhaps they were distracted by Ponting's ill timed retirement (should've done it before the test match) and apparently the whole thing about having to win/draw this became just a sideshow.

Australia is slowly looking like the Windies side of the 90s post their greats, when one batsman started to emerge heads, shoulders, waists and some more above their contemporaries, Clark just has been Laraesque, but how long can he carry on the batting burden on his own? The replacements for Ponting are all looking iffy, with no clear candidate kicking and screaming at the door to be selected.

With the top batsmen ageing 26, 31, 31, 32 and 37 not quite sure this side can be called as one trying to rebuild itself either. Also the top 3 now average 34, 41 and 37, not really the kind of a top order one would associate with a team wanting to get back to the top of the rankings either. It looks far too brittle for that and for that alone, I feel Clarke should bat at no.3.
 
Teja.

Teja.

Global Moderator
smalishah84 said:
he wasn't exactly i**** sharma when he started out tbf....he did throw down some stuff of legend

Ishant Sharma v Ponting Legendary Spell Perth 2008 - YouTube
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It's worth remembering that he averaged 59.66 with the ball in that particular 'breakthrough' series.

As Ishant - several times, Broad in Australia, Hilf in India and hundreds of other examples have proved, Bowling deliveries which move both ways outside off-stump but are too short in length can make a bowler look good and remain economical but they don't make the batsman play, don't really create pressure as they don't threaten the stumps and certainly don't create wickets on a regular basis.
 
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NasserFan207

NasserFan207

International Vice-Captain
Senile Sentry said:
It's an almighty thumping, and in a befitting fashion SA has retained their hold on the mace. The last two holders proved to be just pretenders, but SA looks the real deal. Yes, it could have been easily 1-1 but for Faf's unbelievable performance in the 2nd test, but then that's what demarcates the winners from the also rans, ability to swallow and grind when required. This was sorely lacking in Australia's approach in the 2nd innings though. No focus, no application, perhaps they were distracted by Ponting's ill timed retirement (should've done it before the test match) and apparently the whole thing about having to win/draw this became just a sideshow.

Australia is slowly looking like the Windies side of the 90s post their greats, when one batsman started to emerge heads, shoulders, waists and some more above their contemporaries, Clark just has been Laraesque, but how long can he carry on the batting burden on his own? The replacements for Ponting are all looking iffy, with no clear candidate kicking and screaming at the door to be selected.

With the top batsmen ageing 26, 31, 31, 32 and 37 not quite sure this side can be called as one trying to rebuild itself either. Also the top 3 now average 34, 41 and 37, not really the kind of a top order one would associate with a team wanting to get back to the top of the rankings either. It looks far too brittle for that and for that alone, I feel Clarke should bat at no.3.
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Australia will never fall to the depths Windies fell, since they actually have a semi-competent set-up and have the benefit of hindsight. The people behind Windies cricket assumed they would always be dominant and fell way behind the curb
 
Senile Sentry

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
NasserFan207 said:
Australia will never fall to the depths Windies fell, since they actually have a semi-competent set-up and have the benefit of hindsight. The people behind Windies cricket assumed they would always be dominant and fell way behind the curb
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Not saying that they will, as unlike Windies, Aus still have a good bowling unit and reasonably good backup as well. The new pacers coming through too are promising. But sadly that can't be said about their batting. And of course, Aus has a sound domestic structure as well. However I am merely talking about their batting strengths. The only batsman who averages over 42 in that lineup apart from Clarke is the 37 year old Mike Hussey, that's hardly encouraging.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

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Just watching the day 4 highlights; how good were the balls Warner and Watson got? Man, play them if you can. Kinda balls you just hope miss everything.

By the way, are SA the first test nation to register wins in England & Oz in the same calendar year?

I suppose they technically did it in 2008, actually, as the series was wrapped up by the third test.
 
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