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***Official*** South Africa in Australia 2012

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Yeah but ranting about the AO pitch is ****ing pointless because, short of water-logging it on the day of the game or divotting it with a shovel, it's always going to be good for batting. The climate and soil here guarantee it. There's no humidity so you won't get swing or sweating, it's hot, dry and cloudless here and the ground has short square boundaries. If you want lots of wickets and an absolute contest between bat and ball, especially on day 1, you're gonna have a bad time.
 
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TumTum

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SA bowlers made batting look easy, not the pitch.

From the start they bowled crap, short and wide. Then Kallis came on and started bowling like they should have, full and straight in Adelaide.

There was a few deliveries that Rory and Morkel passed the bat with, so the pitch wasn't completely dead.

Then the spinners came on and it was just carnage from there.
 

Spark

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Kleinveldt bowled a good spell to Clarke just after Warner got out. Was a tad unlucky not to pick him up, tbh, either went past or got the edge about six times.

I mean, there'll probably be a result if only because the speed of the run-scoring has basically bought Australia two extra sessions already.
 
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Prince EWS

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I don't even care if you ****s want to pretend making runs on this wicket is actually worth writing home about but what gets me is that you blokes praising Clarke for his innings here would be the first ones to talk down the records of Sangakkara and Jayawardene for supposedly only scoring runs on flat home wickets.

Want to play a Test every year on an absurd highway? Fine. Lets not pretend big runs there against depleted, injured and Tahir-containing attacks are examples of amazing Test batting though, and if you do, at least be consistent about it when players do similar things in other countries.
 

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Crabb going overboard.

Yeah this pitch is a road, but it's a road that accelerates the time needed for reverse swing to take effect and also provides plenty for spin bowlers late in the match. Rarely drawn matches for a pitch of this nature.
 
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Dan

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I don't even care if you ****s want to pretend making runs on this wicket is actually worth writing home about but what gets me is that you blokes praising Clarke for his innings here would be the first ones to talk down the records of Sangakkara and Jayawardene for supposedly only scoring runs on flat home wickets.

Want to play a Test every year on an absurd highway? Fine. Lets not pretend big runs there against depleted, injured and Tahir-containing attacks are examples of amazing Test batting though, and if you do, at least be consistent about it when players do similar things in other countries.
Haven't heard anyone suggest Clarke's knock has anything on his South African one, or even the double ton up at Brisbane. Nobody's talking it up as the best 100 or 200 they've ever seen - it's more about his remarkable consistency and weight of runs in the past 12 months.

Apart from the South African one, I reckon every big ton from Pup has some sort of caveat - India's poor attack, pitches that wouldn't be out of place on the M5 or injured South Africans - but irrespective 1200+ runs at 140 for the year is ridiculously consistent.

I think you're leaning towards a straw man here, to be perfectly honest. Nobody has brought up Sangakkara or Jayawardene in-thread*, nobody has championed this innings ahead of Sanga's 192 in Hobart (to make but one example), and I'm pretty confident everyone here rates that knock in South Africa as Clarke's best (perhaps second to the 329 on sheer weight of runs).

tl:dr - everyone is praising Clarke for his form this past year as a whole, not this knock in isolation.


*as far as I can see
 

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I don't even care if you ****s want to pretend making runs on this wicket is actually worth writing home about but what gets me is that you blokes praising Clarke for his innings here would be the first ones to talk down the records of Sangakkara and Jayawardene for supposedly only scoring runs on flat home wickets.

hey woah i love me some kumar
 

andruid

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Is Clarke's the faster double century in test history? Got to be close. On the other hand I'm I the only one wondering why when South Africa play Australia the outcomes have to be so...surreal? 434 chased down in an ODI being an example.
 

Spark

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To be honest, it's also the fact that you rarely, if ever, see 500 being taken off a half-decent attack (and let's face it half the attack was still quite decent. Morkel bowled OK today and got treated like an absolute club pie-chucker after tea) in a day. Or a double century being scored from the middle order in two sessions. Or 100 being put on in 10 overs!

Guarantee you that a lot more people will remember today than will remember, say, one of Pattinson's brilliant spells at the MCG which took two wickets. Yeah, perhaps the latter may be better cricket from a bat vs. ball POV, but rarity has a quality of its own.
 

Dan

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Is Clarke's the faster double century in test history? Got to be close. On the other hand I'm I the only one wondering why when South Africa play Australia the outcomes have to be so...surreal? 434 chased down in an ODI being an example.
Nathan Astle made one off about 155 balls or something, mere days after Gilchrist got the record making 204 off 210
 

Spark

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Is Clarke's the faster double century in test history? Got to be close. On the other hand I'm I the only one wondering why when South Africa play Australia the outcomes have to be so...surreal? 434 chased down in an ODI being an example.
Haha, not even remotely close
 

Prince EWS

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Haven't heard anyone suggest Clarke's knock has anything on his South African one, or even the double ton up at Brisbane. Nobody's talking it up as the best 100 or 200 they've ever seen - it's more about his remarkable consistency and weight of runs in the past 12 months.

Apart from the South African one, I reckon every big ton from Pup has some sort of caveat - India's poor attack, pitches that wouldn't be out of place on the M5 or injured South Africans - but irrespective 1200+ runs at 140 for the year is ridiculously consistent.

I think you're leaning towards a straw man here, to be perfectly honest. Nobody has brought up Sangakkara or Jayawardene in-thread*, nobody has championed this innings ahead of Sanga's 192 in Hobart (to make but one example), and I'm pretty confident everyone here rates that knock in South Africa as Clarke's best (perhaps second to the 329 on sheer weight of runs).

tl:dr - everyone is praising Clarke for his form this past year as a whole, not this knock in isolation.


*as far as I can see
Nah lots of people have been going on about what an amazing knock/day of Test cricket this has been. I brought up Sangakkara and Jayawardene myself because I'm sure no-one would go into the India in Sri Lanka thread saying that sort of stuff after one of them knocked up a double ton at the SSC. The vast majority of posts in there would be about how dead the pitch was and how bad for cricket it is, yet here we've got the same thing and it's all praise.

Personal thing really but I find cricket on a wicket like this absolutely terrible to watch frankly and I get frustrated by the double standards that are applied to the Adelaide Oval by the Australian public.
 
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Spark

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I'm pretty sure Sanga and Jayawardene would be praised if they put on 500 on Day 1 on a Test. Seriously.
 

Spikey

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we praised them for the 600 odd stand iirc

and yeah a couple called out the pitch. we were calling out the pitch on the first hour. and then some quite amazing performances happened.
 

Spikey

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really, the game after lunch never slowed down enough for us to get into a flat track debate
 

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