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***Official**** Shane Warne Tribute thread

adharcric

International Coach
KaZoH0lic said:
:laugh:



You turned it into bullcrap again? Doesn't surprise me - I don't expect too much from you to be honest mate.
Look, you clearly have a bias for Warne and that doesn't allow you to hold proper discussions with anyone who doesn't believe Warne is supreme. Admitting that you have this bias doesn't excuse you from proper behavior. Anil hasn't said anything particularly anti-Warne here (I know the two of you went at it in a different thread) so cut out the crap.
 

Stumped

Banned
adharcric said:
Look, you clearly have a bias for Warne and that doesn't allow you to hold proper discussions with anyone who doesn't believe Warne is supreme. Admitting that you have this bias doesn't excuse you from proper behavior. Anil hasn't said anything particularly anti-Warne here (I know the two of you went at it in a different thread) so cut out the crap.
i think most australians will be bias to warne
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Come on guys. Lets not ruin this thread.



Kazo, Anil hasn't said anything REALLY derogatory about Warne. He perhaps felt that given how well Lara plays spin (including Warne) and how much trouble McGrath has caused him over the years, maybe Lara wasn't completely genuine about his praises on Warne.


And Anil, just because Lara plays Warney well doesn't mean he shouldn't rate him as the best. Maybe it is because he is so good against spin that he recognizes that (as he has said) Warney is the only spinner who can pose him problems even when he is well set.


BTW, Lara has had his fair share of success against McGrath as well. It is not like McGrath all the way vis-a-vis Lara. Their contests have been one sided in the sense that either Lara gets a big score or McGrath gets him out cheaply. In that sense, there has never really been an equal contest between those two but it is not like McGrath has rolled over Lara all the time. So I can see why he could perhaps feel that Warne is better than McGrath.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
adharcric said:
Look, you clearly have a bias for Warne and that doesn't allow you to hold proper discussions with anyone who doesn't believe Warne is supreme. Admitting that you have this bias doesn't excuse you from proper behavior. Anil hasn't said anything particularly anti-Warne here (I know the two of you went at it in a different thread) so cut out the crap.
It is absolutely none of your business to come here and make a comment. I know what he has said or hasn't said and I'll be the judge of that. I don't need you to prod in nor do I think Anil needs you to defend him.

And I CAN have a proper discussion, yourself and a few of your mates are those who can't and won't accept different points of view. Refraining from a debate just because you disagree and can't be bothered to reply doesn't give you any right to call out rudeness.
 

adharcric

International Coach
KaZoH0lic said:
It is absolutely none of your business to come here and make a comment. I know what he has said or hasn't said and I'll be the judge of that. I don't need you to prod in nor do I think Anil needs you to defend him.

And I CAN have a proper discussion, yourself and a few of your mates are those who can't and won't accept different points of view. Refraining from a debate just because you disagree and can't be bothered to reply doesn't give you any right to call out rudeness.
Let's get things straight. I have nothing against Shane Warne or you. Anil clearly stated that he wasn't saying anything anti-Warne and you still had a go at him. That's all.
If you can have a proper discussion, that's good. Keep it up. :)
 
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FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
honestbharani said:
And Anil, just because Lara plays Warney well doesn't mean he shouldn't rate him as the best. Maybe it is because he is so good against spin that he recognizes that (as he has said) Warney is the only spinner who can pose him problems even when he is well set.
Yeah, that's what I think as well. I don't think he was really saying that Warne was the bowler who troubled him the most all the time, but that given how well he usually plays spinners, and presumably how comfortable he feels against them when he is set, the fact that Warne kept threatening him throughout his innings made him rate Warne particularly highly. His comments basically indicated that he rated both bowlers highly, but that he felt McGrath was one among several great seamers he had faced over the years, while Warne stood clear of everyone else, despite the fact that he didn't get him out as often.
 

Anil

Hall of Fame Member
honestbharani said:
And Anil, just because Lara plays Warney well doesn't mean he shouldn't rate him as the best. Maybe it is because he is so good against spin that he recognizes that (as he has said) Warney is the only spinner who can pose him problems even when he is well set.


BTW, Lara has had his fair share of success against McGrath as well. It is not like McGrath all the way vis-a-vis Lara. Their contests have been one sided in the sense that either Lara gets a big score or McGrath gets him out cheaply. In that sense, there has never really been an equal contest between those two but it is not like McGrath has rolled over Lara all the time. So I can see why he could perhaps feel that Warne is better than McGrath.
i can't claim to know lara's mind better than he does and that's not what i was doing here, i was just pointing out something strange given how his career stats have turned against both bowlers and i agree that lara has not exactly been mcgrath's bunny either, after a brief discussion with fuller on the subject, i just said that it's flattering for even a player of warne's stature to praised so highly by such a magnificent player of spin as lara, from my point of view, that's in no way a knock on warne.......anyway i will desist from rising to the bait on this anymore so that we don't descend again into personal jibes, mr. peacemaker...:)
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
All good to see we are giving tributes to the big man, but what about looking at some of the few lowlights of his career, since all legends of the game have had a few.

For me its India obviously, even though he had a decent series in 2004, i'm sure even he'll wish he could have done better over there, especially his record at the superb Eden Gardens..
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
aussie said:
All good to see we are giving tributes to the big man, but what about looking at some of the few lowlights of his career, since all legends of the game have had a few.

For me its India obviously, even though he had a decent series in 2004, i'm sure even he'll wish he could have done better over there, especially his record at the superb Eden Gardens..
Can;t hold it against him, since how many overseas spinners do well in India? Murali doesn't either. Its hard to beat Indian batsmen vs. spin on Indian wickets.
 

JBH001

International Regular
silentstriker said:
Can;t hold it against him, since how many overseas spinners do well in India? Murali doesn't either. Its hard to beat Indian batsmen vs. spin on Indian wickets.
IMO, Murali's recent series against India was not all that flash either.

Except for that one great spell, he was more or less handled pretty well by the Indian batsman - one reason for which was that Murali was far too doosra happy in that series.

The series against India in India (97/98 iirc) was better bowling on his part, though he took - if memory serves me right - 12 wkts at an avge of 35 - 40. All he had at the time was his big offie and a developing toppie so he really had to work for his wickets. Especially when you consider that SL lost all those matches by an innings - so Murali took those wickets over 3 innings in 3 matches. Not bad really, considering.

(Incidentally, this is something that is often forgotten when judging Murali's overseas bowling performances. That is, the generally poor performances overseas by SL's batsmen for most of his career, that has often meant that Murali at times bowls only 1 full inning per test match as the team goes down by an innings or by a large margin of wkts etc. It may not be a coincidence that Murali's good performances overseas this year, for example, has been built on the back of some good Sri Lankan batting - either individually or teamwise)
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
chipmonk said:
Sri Lankan cricket official: Australian spinner Warne failed to honour promise
(AP)

23 December 2006



COLOMBO, Sri Lanka - Australian spin bowler Shane Warne failed to honour his promise to donate money to help rebuild the Galle cricket stadium wrecked by the 2004 tsunami, a Sri Lankan cricket official said Saturday.


Shane is a fine cricketer, one of the best of our time, but he is not good at keeping promises,’ Jayananda Warnaweera, director of the Galle International Cricket Stadium told The Associated Press by the telephone from the southern city, one of the worst affected by the 2004 tsunami.

Warnaweera, who played test cricket for Sri Lanka for 10 years from 1985, said he was pained to see that Warne, who took his 500th test cricket at the Galle stadium and promised the money, had not kept his word.

We have not received a cent,’ said Warnaweera, who is also the curator of the ground.

One of the world’s most picturesque cricket stadiums, Galle was to be abandoned after the tsunami, which inflicted huge damages to the infrastructure and required the removal of 3 to 4 inches (10 to 8 centimeters) of top soil on the center pitches. The entire drainage system also needs to be replaced.

Since being converted into an international test venue in 1998, Galle International Stadium has hosted 12 tests.

In February, 2006 Warne visited Galle and promised help through the Shane Warne Foundation. Warne had a personal affection for the Galle Stadium because it was where he captured his 500th test wicket when Australia toured Sri Lanka in early 2004.

Warnaweera said Warne had promised during TV interviews that he will be able to donate a big amount for the reconstruction of the Galle Stadium.

We had heard he will donate up to US$1 million (Ð0.76 million), plus US$50,000 (Ð37,901.76) that was supposed to have been raised by selling wrist band during the Boxing Day Test at Melbourne,’ Warnaweera said.

The waiting had been too long and too painful,’ Warnaweera said of the lack of response from Warne. Just nothing has happened.

Therefore we decided to go ahead and start the work ourselves,’ he added.

Warnaweera said Sri Lankan president Mahinda Rajapakse, who is otherwise a Rugby fan, has agreed to provide the funds.

Our estimate is that it will cost between US$3 to US$4 million (Ð2.3 to Ð3 million) for the rebuilding work,’ he said, adding he plans to rebuild the facility by next November in time to host one of the tests when the English team visits Sri Lanka.

Warne has announced he will retire from all international and domestic cricket after the fifth Ashes test against England next month. The 37-year-old Australian legspinner, test cricket’s leading wicket taker with 699 dismissals, made the announcement on Thursday at the Melbourne Cricket Ground. He will return to the MCG on Tuesday attempting to secure his 700th test wicket in the fourth test against England.
The great man has said he will honour his promise -



Charity fundraiser last year made nothing

Warne pledges money to Galle reconstruction

Cricinfo staff

December 28, 2006

Shane Warne has committed his charitable foundation to donate Aus$20,000 to tsunami reconstruction efforts in Sri Lanka.

The move, announced at a breakfast event in Melbourne, followed reports last week that the foundation had failed to deliver a promised Aus$50,000 for repair of the devastated cricket ground in the Sri Lankan town of Galle. The ground in the town is where Warne took his 500th Test wicket in March 2004.

The Sydney Morning Herald said Warne told the celebrity breakfast - attended by Australia's richest man James Packer and Warne's fellow retiring cricketer Glenn McGrath - that a promotion at last year's Boxing Day Test for the sale of wristbands had failed to attract much support. Only 5,000 of the three-dollar wristbands had been sold, he reportedly said.

That information was conveyed to Galle International Cricket Club this year but more than five months after the foundation had promised in an email that the fund-raiser would net Aus$50,000 for the reconstruction of the ground, the newspaper said. The foundation's then chief executive Brad Grapsas told the director of the Galle club, Jayananda Warnaweera, that the cost of the promotion was greater than the amount collected and there would be no money forthcoming.

Warne told this week's breakfast he had been greatly moved by a visit he made to Galle a month after the 2004 tsunami devastated the coastal town and swamped its picturesque cricket ground. He handed out food, cricket kit and toys to children orphaned in the tsunami, which killed an estimated 31,000 people in Sri Lanka.

Sri Lanka Cricket told AFP this week that work had got underway at the ground and there were plans to hold a Test match during the England tour planned for late October-November 2007. "I can say we're giving the Sri Lankan Cricket Club Aus$20,000 today, which goes towards helping build some cricket grounds," Warne told the function, according to the Herald.
 

Laurrz

International Debutant
lol i think McGrath deserves his own farewell too tbh.. he'll get that in the WC final..hopefully we win... but no home crowd

i also think there should be a GoodBye Pigeon show.. or atleast it should be merged with the Goodbye Warney show

which starts in 1 min btw
 

Stumped

Banned
Laurrz said:
lol i think McGrath deserves his own farewell too tbh.. he'll get that in the WC final..hopefully we win... but no home crowd

i also think there should be a GoodBye Pigeon show.. or atleast it should be merged with the Goodbye Warney show

which starts in 1 min btw
here here
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not much more can be said really - guy is a magnificent cricketer and will be impossible to replace for OZ

Worthwhile watching the tribute show for no other reason than to be reminded of how brilliant he was prior to the first shoulder injury.
 

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