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*Official* Second Test at Lords

.matt

School Boy/Girl Captain
Siddle seems a bit tired. Dragging his length back a bit and seemed to try a little too hard on that ball and whipped it down the legside.

That one is well wide too. Bring Mitch and Hilfy back on.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
You realise treason is still a capial offence don't you? Along with Piracy on the Seas and using the word "access" as a verb.
Only piratism on the high seas is a capital offence. And what's more, that's defined by British ideals. Thus admitting this is kowtowing to British superiority.
 

pup11

International Coach
Tipping Johnson to lift and take a bag now that Australia really need him to.
That's pretty much the only hope left, but given the way he has bowled so far on this tour, I really doubt whether that's gonna happen.
 

wfdu_ben91

International 12th Man
Yes, and I've seen him do so. It's just on the vast majority of occasions he doesn't try, whereas Symonds and Gayle try (and succeed) with great regularity. Same with Richards and Strauss.

Being a good batsman and the maximum pace you can hit the ball with are not correlative. Most batsmen's maximum pace is roughly similar. What sets them apart is how regularly they utilise coming close to said maximum.
Symonds and Gayle are both far more immensely stronger then Bell, it's ridiculous to think that Bell would be able to hit the ball harder then Symonds or Gayle.
 

Andre

International Regular
North and Katich and Clarke might not offer much of a threat (touch wood) but they can bowl enough overs to give the quicks a rest.

Mitch Johnson's got to be feeling the pressure, though. Being part of a 3-man attack is a real problem if you're bowling rubbish.
Giving the quicks a rest doesn't win you Test matches. We need five genuine wicket taking options while the attack is in the developmental stage of their careers. Having bowlers with the attacking and defensive ability of Warne and McGrath was the exception rather than the norm. They could bowl long, long spells and keep it tight as well as look threatening. At this stage our attack can't, ehnce why we need more options to cover our bases comprehensively.

Lucky Hauritz is a spinner, cause if one of the quicks went down, we've got virtually no medium pace part timers.
 

.matt

School Boy/Girl Captain
Finally Mitch is on. Siddle was bowled 2 overs too many. Now Hilfy, Clarke or Katich on for North and we are looking better.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Symonds and Gayle are both far more immensely stronger then Bell, it's ridiculous to think that Bell would be able to hit the ball harder then Symonds or Gayle.
No-one thinks he can. However, brute strength isn't a requisite to gain all that much speed over 18 yards or so. The extra weight of bat (which after all is the only thing that extra strength gains you) won't make any real difference.

Over 150 yards it might just make a small difference, but even so, Bell's hardest-hit shot won't go that much less far than Symonds' hardest-hit.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Lucky Hauritz is a spinner, cause if one of the quicks went down, we've got virtually no medium pace part timers.
Hussey's meds are almost part-time bowler standard IMO.

Anyway, while I agree that five bowlers on some surfaces would have a lot of merit for Australia (particularly if Watto was fit), I don't agree at with the notion of picking a team with a certain balance just in case someone got injured in the middle of the game.
 

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