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*Official* Second ODI in Brisbane

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Oz selectors need to find a way to get Forkers in the test team

Guy will be an outstanding international cricketer for the next decade
 

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Anyone remember yorkers?
I've made a dick load of posts on this topic, but seriously, why teams don't isolate one section of the ground and bowl to it (I.e. Full and outside off) is just amateurish. I can't believe it's just a bowler wilting under the pressure, it must be that they just don't talk about it at training with their plans.
 

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I've made a dick load of posts on this topic, but seriously, why teams don't isolate one section of the ground and bowl to it (I.e. Full and outside off) is just amateurish. I can't believe it's just a bowler wilting under the pressure, it must be that they just don't talk about it at training with their plans.
No way

Simply pressure
 

SteveNZ

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Anyone remember yorkers?
Exactly what I came here to say. The lost art of the yorker is my hobby horse and I'm not jumping off it any time soon.

I don't remember Fawkner scooping too many of his hundred in India, yet England bowl the same length he clobbered over there, not yorkers. Absolutely brain dead and deserved to lose.
 

vic_orthdox

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Stokes bowled a couple of good ones, in particular the second ball of the second last over, you reckon he wasn't trying to do it again afterwards?
 

Scaly piscine

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I've made a dick load of posts on this topic, but seriously, why teams don't isolate one section of the ground and bowl to it (I.e. Full and outside off) is just amateurish. I can't believe it's just a bowler wilting under the pressure, it must be that they just don't talk about it at training with their plans.
Daft thing is that's exactly what England did when they actually won something (World T20). But then they had a good captain (Collingwood) instead of Cook who's completely clueless.

Cook's plan seems to be surprise the batsmen by bowling the same bowlers over and over and over and over again, spread the field out and bowl a variety.
 

SteveNZ

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They remember. They just tighten up and can't hit them.
I don't reckon they are, a lot of the time. Bresnan's slower balls aren't attempted yorkers, needing 12 why can't he go full, have third man tight and if he manages to squeeze one, it's 1 (2 at the most) and he's welcome to ramp if desired. Maybe Stokes were, but it's so far off it's unreal.
 

jackbyrne91

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Why did Cook take Bopara out of the attack? He had bowled 4 overs for 12 runs and they were struggling to get him away. Then brings back his bumboy Bresnan so he can bowl a few gentle half-volleys and full tosses.

Bresnan is no quicker than Bopara.

Cook is clueless.
 

vic_orthdox

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I don't reckon they are, a lot of the time. Bresnan's slower balls aren't attempted yorkers, needing 12 why can't he go full, have third man tight and if he manages to squeeze one, it's 1 (2 at the most) and he's welcome to ramp if desired. Maybe Stokes were, but it's so far off it's unreal.
Bresnan was bowling short slower balls to the longest part of the ground, with three and at some stages four blokes on the fence to defend it. It had worked well, and was tough to score against the rest of the time, hence why Faulkner was targeting Stokes from the other end.

Funnily enough, reckon he stuffed up by bowling a yorker once they put the field back for his slower ball; they had four on the leg side fence and he went for the quicker yorker, which was always going to be easier to get through the off side.
 

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Stokes bowled a couple of good ones, in particular the second ball of the second last over, you reckon he wasn't trying to do it again afterwards?
A Yorker at the stumps still opens up 360 degree scoring opportunities. The margin for error is too low. You have to get it right bang on for a Yorker on the stumps to be good.
 
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