Official Rugby Thread

[Molehill]

Crocodile roll. You are simply not allowed to do that even if it ends up not doing anything to the player. Zero tolerance.

I’ve watched it again and just can’t see it. The more dangerous tackle looks to be from Darge. I’m not sure what part of Cummings tackle is dangerous.

 

[Ali TT]

12 of England's last 14 matches have been decided by a points difference of a converted try or less. 6 wins 6 defeats.

The run of 4 defeats is probably a reversion to the mean after coming out on top in a bunch of close ones in the WC and 6N but that England so consistently fail to finish games off suggests coaching issues to me.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I'm really worried that the Lions tour to Oz will be a boring 3-0. With the southern hemisphere beating the north 5-0 next year, I don't hold up much hope for the Lions being competitive.

 

[social]

NH teams lost every test against SH nations where the game is only growing in SA & Argentina

That’s not good

 

[Dendarii]

I’ve watched it again and just can’t see it. The more dangerous tackle looks to be from Darge. I’m not sure what part of Cummings tackle is dangerous.

That was my thought too. Darge was the one who pulled the player to the ground, resulting in the danger to his leg. It feels like they carded the wrong player.

 

[GotSpin]

Thumping win for Argentina. Missing a few important players too

 

[StephenZA]

I’ve watched it again and just can’t see it. The more dangerous tackle looks to be from Darge. I’m not sure what part of Cummings tackle is dangerous.

Both the cleaners went in high. Darge however ended up landing to the left of Eben. Unfortunately for Cummings he landed on Ebens right leg while still pulling Eben backwards initially.

 

[Molehill]

Both the cleaners went in high. Darge however ended up landing to the left of Eben. Unfortunately for Cummings he landed on Ebens right leg while still pulling Eben backwards initially.

The other factor not mentioned was the SA 9 getting up on the wrong side which also impacted the direction of Cummings clearout. How the TMO decided there was no mitigation in this I've no idea.

NH teams lost every test against SH nations where the game is only growing in SA & Argentina

The game is hardly growing here either.

Ireland looked rusty and will clearly improve. England need a new Coach that can adapt to a game as it plays, not stick with pre-scripted plans. Welsh rugby is a mess at the mo (I'm not sure any Welsh make the Lions Tour), and Scotland were beaten by the World Champions.

The Lions will still beat Aus 3-0 and comfortably.

 

[BoyBrumby]

The game is hardly growing here either.

Ireland looked rusty and will clearly improve. England need a new Coach that can adapt to a game as it plays, not stick with pre-scripted plans. Welsh rugby is a mess at the mo (I'm not sure any Welsh make the Lions Tour), and Scotland were beaten by the World Champions.

The Lions will still beat Aus 3-0 and comfortably.

Hmm. One for Proverbs 16:18,

Pride* goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall

*Pride/Lions, see what I did there?

 

[ripper868]

Better than Keats is our Brumby.

And yeah, the Lions should still win 3-0 and comfortably, we barely scraped past a warmed up England, and the Lions will have the mid-week warm-ups etc before any of the tests, so I'd be expecting even a 5-0 sweep of the 3 test series.

 

[wpdavid]

Better than Keats is our Brumby.

And yeah, the Lions should still win 3-0 and comfortably, we barely scraped past a warmed up England, and the Lions will have the mid-week warm-ups etc before any of the tests, so I'd be expecting even a 5-0 sweep of the 3 test series.

Now you're being hyperbolic

 

[Molehill]

Better than Keats is our Brumby.

And yeah, the Lions should still win 3-0 and comfortably, we barely scraped past a warmed up England, and the Lions will have the mid-week warm-ups etc before any of the tests, so I'd be expecting even a 5-0 sweep of the 3 test series.

From 15-3 up and in complete control, to lose to that Aussie team (not being rude, but we know their limitations) should spell the end of Borthwick's tenure. Twice he's felt the need to change his fly half when things were going ok and it's cost him the game. When you're leading and in possession of the ball with less than 10 mins to go, why would you try some elaborate passing move on the halfway line when you could just pin the opposition back into their 22? We've mentioned it already, but that last 10 mins was a lesson (from both teams) on how not to play out a game, embarrassing stuff.

Aus are clearly improving (which was not hard given where they'd plumbed to), but I still don't see how they beat a full Lions with a half decent coach.

 

[ripper868]

They shouldn't be near the Lions, I don't expect them to be. It would also seem, neither should England.

 

[social]

Nobody expects the Wallabies to beat the Lions & they should never be able to

We have a tiny talent pool up & we’re up against 4 countries

 

[Son Of Coco]

Imagine how well they’d go if they had half a dozen NRL players instead of just the one.

the young bloke who scored the last try looks genuinely fast though. Is he Peter Jorgensen’s young bloke?

It was good of Sua'ali'i to go across to rugby and show them how to play the game.

 

[Heboric]

Slight chuckle on hearing about this

New World Rugby chief named

Australian Brett Robinson has been elected as the new World Rugby chairman, becoming the first representative from the southern hemisphere to hold the position.

www.sarugbymag.co.za

 

[social]

Robinson & the co-chairman Jonathan Webb are both doctors so it will be interesting to see whether they even attempt to introduce safety measures into the game

Contact sports like rugby cannot afford the $1.2 billion paid by the NFL to CTE sufferers but they will know that action is coming and sticking their heads in the sand won’t cut it

Another story from rugby league and unfortunately there will be many more in these sports

Garry Schofield reveals brain damage diagnosis and ‘horrendous’ effects in emotional final column

WELL, this is it! This isn’t just my final column in this great newspaper – you won’t hear or see me interviewed any more. No more podcasts, no more media appearances. This page is the final …

www.totalrl.com

 

[ripper868]

It was good of Sua'ali'i to go across to rugby and show them how to play the game.

Just like that Vunivalu fella did who really lit the game up.

Tbh, I'm on board with more code hopping, 3 years here, 3 years there, whatever. If it means the talent pool across both codes gets bigger, then why not. And if some guys want to specialise, fine, but if other guys are good enough to play both, play both!

 

[ripper868]

Argies with a great start, but pulled back for a pretty incidental head collision...that really didn't deserve a yellow for me.

And the flow on effect of that as well, is the last 90 seconds of play was all for nought...and the clock doesn't reset, so it's a kick in the teeth for everyone really.

And of course Ireland score off it, so 14 point swing.

And add to that, why isn't Crowley off after suffering such savage whiplash in selling it.

 

[ripper868]

Surprised didn't go back to look at the Argie player being mashed while going for the ball, but they got the croc roll so hey ho.

When the game has been going it's been decent though, bit of running from both teams, Argentina's turn to have a crack in this next 10 I guess.