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Official Rugby Thread
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BoyBrumby
Englishman
Yeah, I'm a member there too, haven't posted for yonks tho 'cos some of the English posters make me a bit embarrassed to be a Pom. I want them to come with subtitles that say "this man is not representative of English fans".zinzan12 said:Just been having a gander at planet rugbys forum...What a load of rubbish..Just English and NZ fans swearing at each other like stroppy 12 year boys would.
Makes the odd heated arguement on this forum seem relatively friendly. Thank god we have a civilized forum here
steds
Hall of Fame Member
1895, but the team that left the yawnion was the same one that had been founded before your wannabe SaintsBoyBrumby said:Er, I think you'll find that musta been before the "Northern Union" split off from real Rugby. St Helens proudly a Union team, just imagine!
Think the split was 1891, IIRC?
Blaze
Banned
zinzan12 said:Just been having a gander at planet rugbys forum...What a load of rubbish..Just English and NZ fans swearing at each other like stroppy 12 year boys would.
Makes the odd heated arguement on this forum seem relatively friendly. Thank god we have a civilized forum here
Was about to say exactly the same thing. Even though I may not always agree with Boy Brumby, I respect his opinion because he knows a lot about the game, same with most people in this thread. The Planet Rugby Forum is a disgrace right at the minute, what does hurling insults at each other achieve?
Zinzan
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Yeah, not that the NZ fans are any better. Whilst I haven't always got the cleanest mouth myself in person, I'm glad this forum is moderated the way it is. Otherwise its a battle for the longest swearwordBoyBrumby said:Yeah, I'm a member there too, haven't posted for yonks tho 'cos some of the English posters make me a bit embarrassed to be a Pom. I want them to come with subtitles that say "this man is not representative of English fans".
Smudge
Hall of Fame Member
Because I visit three forums (in the main), I get the best of all worlds - the tightly moderated Cricket Web, the very sports-focused Silver Fern and the no-holds-barred Planet Rugby. I must admit I like PR best, just because of that "cut throat" nature, where you can go right off at someone and then have a beer with them when you meet them a few months later. It's also the only rugby forum I know with a former international player (Lions hooker Brian Moore) as an occasional poster. It's also provided some genuine LOL moments - some very cutting humour in amongst the dross.Blaze said:
I just wonder when I'll get to see this match - our stupid TV is still packed away because the flatmates are renovating...
And it seems even Andy Robinson thought NZ had the better of the scrum exchanges...
BoyBrumby
Englishman
There are some good posters on there (I quite like Jake, takes balls to be as out as he is on a sports forum), but there's altogether too much of the peeing contest about it for me. Some posters just clearly wanna whip it out & see who really does have the biggest!Voltman said:
ohtani's jacket
State Vice-Captain
That was an epic Test.
Steve Hansen & scrum coach, Mike Cron, deserve a ton of praise. The scrum was outstanding, despite being reduced to seven men, and while the front row didn't dominate, I thought both props got the better of their opposite numbers, negating whatever advantage England had up front. As Lowie said, "Woodcock, like the whole All Black tight five, did a power of work in a game where they had to be all over the park making tackles and winning the ball in the tight and the loose." Heading into the Test, quite a few ex-pats were lamenting the soft packs we've taken to Twickenham since the end of the Olo Brown-Sean Fitzpatrick-Craig Dowd era, so it was great to see the English scrum backpedaling, if only momentarily.
Not that the English forwards were bad... They drove over us with ease for the first try; at that point I was reeling from what a hostile enviroment Twickenham was, and I felt it was a mistake to use the new haka, given the bad feeling at the moment. (When I got to work, I mentioned that the English were chirping like a team full of Gregans & my English colleague went off: "You lot are never happy unless you annihilate somebody. Well let me tell you, you were damn lucky!" )
I don't know if I'd call defending for 23 minutes with a man down, "lucky", nor do I agree with Corry's assessment that, "when we denied them space they looked quite ordinary, certainly beatable and not as imposing as they have done" -- if anything, it was England who looked ordinary, despite creating more pressure than they could've ever hoped for. I honestly believe if it wasn't for the ref, we would've won by a comfortable margin.
Perhaps it's not fair to call England ordinary. After all, they disrupted our backline and put pressure on Carter, but with the ball in hand, they couldn't score a try to save their lives. They gave us one hell of a scare, however.
Steve Hansen & scrum coach, Mike Cron, deserve a ton of praise. The scrum was outstanding, despite being reduced to seven men, and while the front row didn't dominate, I thought both props got the better of their opposite numbers, negating whatever advantage England had up front. As Lowie said, "Woodcock, like the whole All Black tight five, did a power of work in a game where they had to be all over the park making tackles and winning the ball in the tight and the loose." Heading into the Test, quite a few ex-pats were lamenting the soft packs we've taken to Twickenham since the end of the Olo Brown-Sean Fitzpatrick-Craig Dowd era, so it was great to see the English scrum backpedaling, if only momentarily.
Not that the English forwards were bad... They drove over us with ease for the first try; at that point I was reeling from what a hostile enviroment Twickenham was, and I felt it was a mistake to use the new haka, given the bad feeling at the moment. (When I got to work, I mentioned that the English were chirping like a team full of Gregans & my English colleague went off: "You lot are never happy unless you annihilate somebody. Well let me tell you, you were damn lucky!" )
I don't know if I'd call defending for 23 minutes with a man down, "lucky", nor do I agree with Corry's assessment that, "when we denied them space they looked quite ordinary, certainly beatable and not as imposing as they have done" -- if anything, it was England who looked ordinary, despite creating more pressure than they could've ever hoped for. I honestly believe if it wasn't for the ref, we would've won by a comfortable margin.
Perhaps it's not fair to call England ordinary. After all, they disrupted our backline and put pressure on Carter, but with the ball in hand, they couldn't score a try to save their lives. They gave us one hell of a scare, however.
Blaze
Banned
Yeah, in reality Masoe should have scored when he dropped the pass over the line from Umaga and that would have taken the lead up to 17 and we probably would have run away with the game.
IMO we were threatening to run away with it just before the ref started waving his cards in the air willy nilly.
IMO we were threatening to run away with it just before the ref started waving his cards in the air willy nilly.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
TBF the ref called Corry & Umaga together twice to warn them both he was going to brandish cards if both teams didn't cut out the cynical play. Hardly "willy nilly". If any team is going to deliberately commit fouls to prevent scoring opportunities they have to expect it.Blaze said:
I worry for the Sweaties next week tho. They're considerably worse than Ireland or Wales and you made mincemeat of both of them.
I'm off to Twickers for the Samoa game, so I'm hoping they can put up a decent showing. Might be a chance for us to try a few different combos out; we definitely need to do something about our centre pairing.
PY
International Coach
I thought the yellows were fair enough to be honest.
The 2nd (?) when England were on the break was cynical at best and the 3rd was near the AB try line and the guy had been warned for cynical play before that, I was furious when I saw it happening and they fully deserved the bin.
I'm happy with the performance in the main, as has been said, no creativity in the backs is a major problem but IMO, it has been for ages. Even when it was Wilkinson, Greenwood and Tindall, it was reliant on Greenwood to come up with something funky. I was really worried before the game we were going to get spanked but NZ didn't really get enough ball which is a credit to England I reckon. However, when they did get it, they looked very very dangerous. Great great defence from New Zealand as well and I think they have to take a lot of credit for the fact that England didn't really look like scoring even when things were kept close by England within the forwards.
Great Test match and a fair result I think. A real advertisement for rugger.
The 2nd (?) when England were on the break was cynical at best and the 3rd was near the AB try line and the guy had been warned for cynical play before that, I was furious when I saw it happening and they fully deserved the bin.
I'm happy with the performance in the main, as has been said, no creativity in the backs is a major problem but IMO, it has been for ages. Even when it was Wilkinson, Greenwood and Tindall, it was reliant on Greenwood to come up with something funky. I was really worried before the game we were going to get spanked but NZ didn't really get enough ball which is a credit to England I reckon. However, when they did get it, they looked very very dangerous. Great great defence from New Zealand as well and I think they have to take a lot of credit for the fact that England didn't really look like scoring even when things were kept close by England within the forwards.
Great Test match and a fair result I think. A real advertisement for rugger.
Tim
Cricketer Of The Year
I see Stephen Jones launched another extrordinary attack on New Zealand rugby overnight.
Calling the new All Black Haka "thug-like" and basically trashing our forward pack as per usual.
He failed to note that even with 7 men in the forward pack we still managed to flatten the English pack on one occassion and never went backwards at any stage.
Calling the new All Black Haka "thug-like" and basically trashing our forward pack as per usual.
He failed to note that even with 7 men in the forward pack we still managed to flatten the English pack on one occassion and never went backwards at any stage.
Tim
Cricketer Of The Year
It must be a real concern for Scotland. With all due respect to Samoa, but an 18-11 scoreline is very unconvincing for Scotland.
NZ will have to make a few changes with Woodcock leaving, a few injuries and I doubt they'll risk McCaw for this game.
Evans to start at 5/8, Cowan to perhaps start at #9.
NZ will have to make a few changes with Woodcock leaving, a few injuries and I doubt they'll risk McCaw for this game.
Evans to start at 5/8, Cowan to perhaps start at #9.