Official - Road to Ashes 2023

[Shady Slim]

yeah it's a case of, if stokes had debuted alongside green and had those numbers sure no argument yeah. but stokes has bolts in the bank that can't be discounted

 

[Starfighter]

Bolts in the bank?

Ain't heard that one before.

 

[GIMH]

My 80 year old grandmother could pull off headingly with half the amount of luck Stokes had that game

You make your own luck

 

[social]

And stokes only has two in that same time and is averaging 30 with the bat. Stokes right now isn't the batsmen he was a few years back.

I have real doubts as to whether Stokes is 100% fit as a batsman let alone being able to bowl

 

[halba]

Stokes isn't fit enough to bowl in a test match. Hence green > stokes. Both are included as all rounder position

 

[Adders]

Stokes isn't fit enough to bowl in a test match. Hence green > stokes. Both are included as all rounder position

What? If Stokes plays and can't bowl he's not in any all-rounder position.....he's being picked as a batsmen.

I'm not getting into any Stokes V's Green discussion but ffs, Ben Stokes brings his best onto the big stage, it would be extremely niave for anyone to look at his last 12 mths and think he's not a major threat in this Ashes series.

 

[Shady Slim]

stokes also has one very rare trait in an englishman which is that he has that dawg in him too

 

[Daemon]

stokes also has one very rare trait in an englishman which is that he has that dawg in him too

That’s the NZ in him. Plucky underdog who’s better than the sum of his parts.

 

[Burgey]

stokes also has one very rare trait in an englishman which is that he has that dawg in him too

Certainly loves a scrap, as we all saw courtesy of the cctv cameras in Bristol a few years back

 

[Son Of Coco]

stokes also has one very rare trait in an englishman which is that he has that dawg in him too

I assume it's from his non-English genes.

 

[Molehill]

From an English perspective, I suspect Green may have a decent series. Whilst we have no idea how he'll go in England, he seems to have a pretty straightforward technique and the middle order is the best place to bat. I'd back him to outscore Head anyway. His bowling could be interesting. I'd be amazed if the English batsman didn't target him and try to force him out of the attack, but he seems to have a bit of a knack of picking up wickets. Got a feeling things will happen one way or another when he bowls.

 

[Qlder]

His bowling could be interesting. I'd be amazed if the English batsman didn't target him and try to force him out of the attack, but he seems to have a bit of a knack of picking up wickets. Got a feeling things will happen one way or another when he bowls.

Green has only 23 wickets from 20 Tests and right now only has 6 wickets going nearly 10 an over from his 14 IPL games. What is this "bit of a knack of picking up wickets"

Has loads of potential but Green has a part-time bowler record right now

 

[Shady Slim]

i might well be wearing my mike coloured-glasses but neser > stokes in any event so it's all academic

 

[Nintendo]

Green has only 23 wickets from 20 Tests and right now only has 6 wickets going nearly 10 an over from his 14 IPL games. What is this "bit of a knack of picking up wickets"

Has loads of potential but Green has a part-time bowler record right now

Depends how you look at his stats. Green's record in AUS is way better than out of AUS in test's with the ball, he just couldn't buy a wicket in the SC when we toured there. In Sena conditions right now he should be a genuine allrounder.

 

[Ashes81]

I assume it's from his non-English genes.

Oh it will be because us English aren't that good at fighting - I presume that's what your implying.

I mean we never have any good boxers or never do well in martial arts at world level.

The Aussies on the other hand - well there's too many world champions in the ring to mention ?

 

[Ashes81]

All coming apart for England. On the back of Smith making runs, Marnus tons up again and Robinson now has an injury. My already conservative 4-0 to Aus prediction looking very good value now. This one really is done

Only 4 nil to the Aussies mate - you're losing your grip - or are you leaving your sandpaper at home for one test. ?

 

[Molehill]

Green has only 23 wickets from 20 Tests and right now only has 6 wickets going nearly 10 an over from his 14 IPL games. What is this "bit of a knack of picking up wickets"

Has loads of potential but Green has a part-time bowler record right now

It'll be the 13 wickets at 16 he took in the last Ashes. But pleasing to hear he's only managed 10 wickets in the other 15 Tests. If that version turns up this time then he's of no more use with the ball than Stokes, perhaps less.

 

[halba]

Sick Bench - Ashes

England

Robinson- Ankle
Stone- Hamstring
Archer- entirely out- elbow
Anderson- Groin
Stokes- knee soreness- bowling restricted.

Aus

Hazlewood -side strain.

Aus advantage in this department. lol.

 

[Qlder]

Sick Bench - Ashes

England

Robinson- Ankle
Stone- Hamstring
Archer- entirely out- elbow
Anderson- Groin
Stokes- knee soreness- bowling restricted.

Aus

Hazlewood -side strain.

Aus advantage in this department. lol.

What about rust where these haven't played a game in any format since at least March:

England
Nil

Australia
khawaja
Head
Carey
Inglis
Cummins
Starc
Boland
Lyon
Murphy

 

[Nintendo]

What about rust where these bowlers haven't played a game in any format since at least March:

England
Nil

Australia
Cummins
Starc
Boland
Lyon
Murphy

Cummins, starc and lyon should ideally play the WTC final, same with boland if hazlewood isn't fit + any warm up games.