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*Official* Road to 2013 Ashes

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AlanJLegend

U19 Vice-Captain
Going off-topic a bit here, but I only just realised how many FC runs Hughes has scored (7432 and counting). That is only a few hundred less than the likes of guys like Voges and White, and heaps more than Klinger and other guys who have seemingly been around forever. If he keeps piling on the runs for another 10-12 years (and dare I say get better) he's going to end up with some pretty ridiculous numbers.

That being said, he'll probably be a regular in the test side and not play as much FC cricket as guys like M Hussey, Lehmann and others played.
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

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Burgey said:
Pietersen and Anderson. Shout out to Cook too. IMO KP is the best English batsman since Gower or Gooch. He's devastating. Cook is rapidly becoming a ****ing annoyance to me though.
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Nah. Has to be Cook. When he makes runs, England win. Pietersen can change a game, win you the impossible, but if Cook sets the platform, put your glasses down, it's over.
 
Spikey

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it's important to note that a Cook or KP ton doesn't carry the same risk to your life as a Trott ton does
 
honestbharani

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Whatever it takes!!!
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i didnt say 3 ****s, i said 4. but theres an unwritten rule in picking these teams that clarke has to be at 5 and i don't think he does have to be
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He is your best middle order batsman and the middle order starts at 4. You must be pretty crazy not to have your BEST MO player at that slot.. I always consider opening and #3 to be more of specialist positions but between 4-7 is the middle order and you just bat them in the order of how good they are.. I honestly do not see why it matters if Clarke comes in at 40/2 or 50/3 except that 40/2 is lesser pressure than 50/3...
 
MrPrez

MrPrez

International Debutant
Defo more scared of Cook than Pieterson when we play England.

Though if Pieterson gets going he's more dominant. Cook is just so consistent which is why he's overall the greater threat.
 
adub

adub

International Captain
Yeah I'd say whilst KP can win you a test Cook can win a series.

Knock him over cheap and get the middle order facing lots of new ball bowling and it gets interesting. Allow him to get in and find a willing partner and it makes for a long day in the field.
 
Tangles

Tangles

International Vice-Captain
Anderson and Cook. Cook grinding you in the field all day is something that is harder to deal with for younger and less experienced sides.
 
Top_Cat

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The message coming from the camp loud and clear is 'bat where you've done the best' so Im going to go ahead and guess Clarke's at 5 for the duration.
 
LongHopCassidy

LongHopCassidy

International Captain
AFAIC, Clarke is entitled to bat where he wants. Whatever position makes him most comfortable and maximizes his run output should be his to choose.
 
Mr.Robbinson

Mr.Robbinson

Cricket Spectator
So did Lehman say Australia had the best pace attack in the World? Only to let the 22 year old Chris Jones (who had a first class average of 17.31 coming into this match) score a century :laugh:

PS: 5 nil to us, without breaking a sweat.
 
flibbertyjibber

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Mr.Robbinson said:
So did Lehman say Australia had the best pace attack in the World? Only to let the 22 year old Chris Jones (who had a first class average of 17.31 coming into this match) score a century :laugh:

PS: 5 nil to us, without breaking a sweat.
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It was actually the previous coach who said they had the best attack in the world. Still funny though.
 
MrPrez

MrPrez

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Judging on one game is never a good idea.

That said, they don't have the best bowling attack in the world.
 
flibbertyjibber

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MrPrez said:
Judging on one game is never a good idea.

That said, they don't have the best bowling attack in the world.
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Exactly, you lot do. Ours is probably better than theirs too as we have a better spinner. You have the best attack and best batting line up and are rightfully the top side in the world at present. How long you can stay there once Kallis and Smith go is up for debate but at the moment you are clearly the best side around.
 
MrPrez

MrPrez

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flibbertyjibber said:
Exactly, you lot do. Ours is probably better than theirs too as we have a better spinner. You have the best attack and best batting line up and are rightfully the top side in the world at present. How long you can stay there once Kallis and Smith go is up for debate but at the moment you are clearly the best side around.
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Yup, agree on that. Ridiculous statement but reckon it was just a mental ploy. Australia have never been shy of talking big in the media, and such confidence in one's team can be quite intimidating for the opposition.

On your SA point, I'm not nearly worried as I thought I'd be. Kallis and Smith are slowly but surely being weaned off, and their replacements are being groomed. de Kock will be ready to go by the time Smith goes, and while Kallis is irreplaceable, we've got guys like Faf coming through. A middle order of Amla, de Villiers, Duminy, Faf isn't all that bad.
 
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