Haha, yeah, and in the '07 version they made Umaga and Mark Henry look no bigger than your average fat bloke down the pub. The wrestler models in that game were pretty dire.
I dunno about them, obviously they're an institution but J.R. constantly gets things wrong and it gets on my nerves. I mean, how many years has he been calling Jeff Hardy's matches, and he still doesn't know the difference between a Whisper In The Wind and a Twist of Fate, whereas even the mark fans do? And King needs to stop talking about "puppies" quite so often. Besides that they're great, no-one gives the big moments as much punch with as much sincerity as they do.
Haha. I don't mind Cole too much, he's a good foil to JBL. Prefer him to Joey "I love ECW so much it hurts sometimes" Styles, at any rate, although that's partly because my appreciation of the original ECW is minimal. Just watch Sandman wrestle a match where he's not allowed to use his Kendo stick and you'll see what I mean.
Yeah, they have at some points had some great workers there. The thing that gets me about it though is that so much of their product is based around nothing that even resembles wrestling. They had some great wrestlers, but IIRC none of those guys you mentioned above were ever ECW champ. They were all mid-carders, just because the fans wanted to see a guy get torn to shreds more than they wanted to see athletic ability.
I used to really like michael cole as a commentator about 5 years ago, but nowadays all we seem to hear is "oh JBL, we havent ever seen anyone manhandle the Undertaker like this"....every single bloody week, that really pisses me off, worse than that in fact is the way JBL goes on to say "this is going to be the most dangerous/career ending/brutal match we have ever witnessed for EVERY single PPV main event that has any sort of stipulation...rah, other than that I quite like JBL, good heel,. but as previously said was in terrible shape for the last 2 years of his career.
hmmm where I agree with what you have said there to an extent I also have to disagree.....a lot of ECW fans were very appreciative of true wrestling, and from what I remember that match was hardly top drawer, and in fact pretty dull, nowhere near the high standards Angle set himself, I would suggest the reason the "boring" chants were bellowing around was due to the fact that the match was simply dull by any real standard, not due to the fact that there were no weapons/blood etc...
a great talent no doubt, further to what I said about the commentary earlier Finlay is another example of how they say stupid things week in week out, for example how often do we hear "finlay is one tough SOB, and loves to fight, he'd put up a fight with anyone", only for him to lose every single week, they do this with kane as well, say what a monster he is then watch as he jobs week in week out, rrraaaah
on his recent return HHH weighed the lightest he has done for about 3 years actually
Yeah, you're right that it wasn't actually a great match, that probably had something to do with it. However, my point still stands about the guys who made it biggest in ECW being just the guys who shed the most blood - for the most part, any man with a screw loose can do most of the stuff that Tommy Dreamer, Sandman, or Terry Funk can do, as insane as it may be. However, the stuff that Benoit, RVD, Eddie, Super Crazy (who deserves so much better than to be part of a tag team with the oldest, most decrepit and talentless piece of junk still breathing in WWE, Hacksaw Jim Duggan) and others could do takes years and years of training, and yet they never made it beyond the midcard thanks to Heyman and the fans' bloodlust.
Aha! That's where I've got you. I think. Muscle weighs four times as much as fat. HHH was lighter because the muscle he had before his lay-off got turned into fat while he was out, then I'd assume since he got back he's put more weight on again. 'Taker now weighs less than 300lb for the first time in his career, but it's not 'cause he's in better shape, it's 'cause his muscles are slowly beginning to deteriorate in size as he gets towards the age of 45-50.sledger said:on his recent return HHH weighed the lightest he has done for about 3 years actually
damkn, forgot about taz, another great wrestler horribly used by the E, that said injury did rather limit what they could do with him after a while, and does make a decent commentator.
Actually you are right about Tazz, I knew there was someone else I forgot. I've probably been overly harsh on ECW, but what gets me about the whole ECW attitude is that they tried so hard to make sure that people thought they were an alternative to WWF/E and WCW rather than competition for them. That put such a glass ceiling on their whole operation. It meant the WWF fans that also watched WCW, or the WCW fans who also watched WWF would be less inclined to watch ECW because they were always bad-mouthing the other two firms, and their fans, and alienating people. WCW and WWF bad-mouthed each other from time to time, but people recognised that that's because they were competing with one another.
Haha. Never seen much of Credible TBH, just know he uses a Tombstone Piledriver as his finisher which is odd.
