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Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

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masterblaster

International Captain
Raw was pretty good this week. Much better than the garbage that was on last week. Canadian crowds are always awesome and WWE should really have more live events up there.

Chris Jericho got a huge ovation everytime he did anything and the fact that Sarge was heel for the night was pretty entertaining. The divas match was pretty good with Gail Kim finally getting her shot at the Divas Championshop.

Overall a much better show than last week. DX vs Legacy has been confirmed for Summerslam ("...I thought it was Summerfest") which seems as it will be nothing more than a complete burial for Rhodes and DiBiase.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Pretty eventful ECW this week. The Hurricane returned and it's going to be Christian vs William Regal for the ECW Championship at Summerslam. Overall that sounds pretty good.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Pretty eventful ECW this week. The Hurricane returned and it's going to be Christian vs William Regal for the ECW Championship at Summerslam. Overall that sounds pretty good.
Yeah agreed, another top match in the making there, that could really be the match of the night if its booked well. Shaping up to be a really good event.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Am I the only one who feels that calling the locals ******** and ripping on them constantly every time they go to Canada is a bit um... counterproductive? From start to finish it seemed to be make fun of Canada night. They seemed so hell bent on ridiculing the Calgary people I can't see how much enjoyment they would have gotten out of it. Seemed like Vince still hasn't gotten over it tbh.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
During a recent interview, Ken Anderson (formerly WWE star Mr. Kennedy) blamed John Cena and Randy Orton for getting him fired and implied they were using political clout to bury other wrestlers reports The Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

Just to clarify since his release went down months ago, John Cena did indeed go to WWE management and said that Ken was unsafe and terrible to work with. Cena wasn't the only one who did this. It was widely reported around the time of Kennedy's release that Randy Orton, who sources claim didn't try to get him fired, went off on him backstage over a back suplex during Kennedy's first match back on Raw over Orton's previously injured collarbone. In the interview, Kennedy tried to blow off that claim saying Orton jumped too hard. The only problem with that is those in WWE didn't feel Kennedy did a great job of putting Orton back down safely, which was his job.

The reaction among many in the media and even in some wrestling circles to Kennedy's claim that Cena, Orton and others were using "political clout" to get him fired is that there really wasn't another example of so many guys in a company like WWE (both top guys and mid-level guys) going to management to complain about a wrestler. One example is Rob Van Dam, who used to get pegged as being dangerous to work with from guys like Shawn Michaels, Triple H and The Undertaker. However, they never got together to try and get him fired. According to at least one strong WWE source, the heat on Kennedy dates back as early as October 2005 when he was first called up to the main roster.

In October 2005, Kennedy worked a tag match teaming with Randy Orton and Bob Orton against Eddie Guerrero and Batista. At one point during the match, Kennedy was supposed to boot Guerrero in the gut. Instead, Kennedy kicked him full on in the jaw and Guerrero was described as being outraged about it to WWE agents after the match. Another incident involved Finlay where Kennedy punted him and Finlay ended up giving him a receipt in the ring. There was another incident also with Matt Hardy where the source described Kennedy as "nearly decapitating" Matt with some spot on the ropes. Vince McMahon, who was watching on his headset, threw them on the ground and started ranting on what he just saw.

Probably one incident that stood out the most was during a Kennedy & Umaga vs. DX tag match where Kennedy screwed something up badly during the match. As a result, Michaels and Triple H pulled him aside in the Gorilla position after the match and had a very long talk with him. After that incident took place, Triple H was overheard throwing in little jabs or jokes about Kennedy when his name was brought up at meetings.
Itstl, opinion of dear old Ken comes down a bit with some of whats said here...if it's true that is, which of course it may not be. Bit worrying if it is mind you.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Just watched this week's Raw, it was way entertaining! When i first saw HBK as a chef I thought it was ridiculous, but it made for some hilarious viewing, and when HHH also donned the chef attire it reminded me of the very early days of DX when they held a BBQ in the ring (and I think this was a deliberate allusion tbh).

I thought the one mistake made was to have Jericho turn heel on the Canadian crowd, they were so pumped for him but as they clearly didn't want to cheer Cena it made the crowd a bit flat for the main event.

Good show though, got ECW taped now, will watch and then look forwards to tonight's Smackdown. Summerfest is shaping up to be alright I reckon ;)
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Oh and btw does anyone else have Al Snow on their facebook? I believe it's the real one, lulz :laugh:
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
WWE has come to terms on the release of WWE Superstar Eugene as of August 14, 2009. We wish Eugene the best in all future endeavors.
:laugh: Haha wtf, he was only re-hired the other week, must be one of the shortest tenures in recent memory, must be another wellness violation I assume. Can't say I give a crap either, awful gimmick means that he will never achieve anything. Apparently was a good worker in his indy days, shame.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
BTW, I know most posters here aren't keen on wrestling forums, and fair enough they are full of a mixture of smarky bastards and retards. I do hang out at wrestlezone from time to time though and while I don't like the way they run the forum, the old school thread is always good for a read. There is a poster called KB there who is one of their better posters, and over recent months he has done extensive reviews of PPVs. He did a thread in the leadup to mania reviewing each one, then did a series reviewing the IYH PPVs and is currently doing Summerslam. A lot of his remarks are smarky but they are very interesting and well thought out reviews and I would recommend reading them if you have time to kill. I spent about a week or so reading through his Mania ones and then the IYH ones and now I follow the Summerslam ones from day to day. Great from a nostalgia POV and there are a few vids embedded in the threads. Check them out.

The history of WrestleMania - with KB - WrestleZone Forums

The History of In Your House With KB - WrestleZone Forums

The History of Summerslam - with KB - WrestleZone Forums
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Looks good, will take a read through a bit later on, should fill up the time tomorrow until the footy is on.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I actually find it more interesting to read the thoughts on the ones I have seen than to watch any of the matches that are available on ones I haven't seen. Great to read about matches you've forgotten about as well, makes you want to dig out the tapes if you have them.

Mania 7 has always been a favourite of mine as it was the first wrestling tape I got. Still have it as well, is in my dining room at the minute. Warrior-Savage was immense.
 

sledger

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I have loads of old PPVs on VHS that I recorded on a Sunday Night and watched on Monday morning before I went off to school, have pretty much everything between Wrestlemania 2000 and Wrestlemania 18, love digging them out and giving them a play through from time to time, just a shame that my VCR has just about had it.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Yeah, I have pretty much the lot from 2000 and early 2001, two taped on long play on one tape. Watched a few a few months back as I have a small portable in my room that has a video player. Well actually I've now given it to Jessica in her room, might sit off in her room one night when she's not here and watch some if I'm bored. Used to stay up and watch them live then get a couple hours sleep before heading to school. Was in 6th form though and had mostly frees on a Monday so it was easy enough. Still used to be in a foul mood all day through no sleep though.
 

sledger

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Yeah, I have pretty much the lot from 2000 and early 2001, two taped on long play on one tape. Watched a few a few months back as I have a small portable in my room that has a video player. Well actually I've now given it to Jessica in her room, might sit off in her room one night when she's not here and watch some if I'm bored. Used to stay up and watch them live then get a couple hours sleep before heading to school. Was in 6th form though and had mostly frees on a Monday so it was easy enough. Still used to be in a foul mood all day through no sleep though.
Haha mates of mine always did that as well, my parents never let me, was in year 7 & 8 at the time though, so probably explains why. Always used to congregate in the area outside my form room in the mornings to discuss what had happened the night before. Remember one particular time quite distinctly; "OMFG The Undertaker showed up on a motorcyle!!!!"
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Haha mates of mine always did that as well, my parents never let me, was in year 7 & 8 at the time though, so probably explains why. Always used to congregate in the area outside my form room in the mornings to discuss what had happened the night before. Remember one particular time quite distinctly; "OMFG The Undertaker showed up on a motorcyle!!!!"
Funny you should mention that one. I had GCSE English that Monday morning so wisely decided that this was one occasion where I couldn't stay up. Taped it and presumed everyone would have done the same given the exam. I walk into the classroom and someone says, "so it's 5-5, and then the Undertaker comes down, and HBK DQs The Rock!"

Love that match so much though. Watched it a few weeks back. I know you disagree, but I personally think that Rock and HHH were made for each other.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Funny you should mention that one. I had GCSE English that Monday morning so wisely decided that this was one occasion where I couldn't stay up. Taped it and presumed everyone would have done the same given the exam. I walk into the classroom and someone says, "so it's 5-5, and then the Undertaker comes down, and HBK DQs The Rock!"

Love that match so much though. Watched it a few weeks back. I know you disagree, but I personally think that Rock and HHH were made for each other.
Haha, well, I found that their feuds were good, and their matches memorable, just that the matches were not all that great themselves apart from the said memorable moments. Though the Iron Man Match was probably the best of the lot, I'm just not a fan of the format, I always feel after the first 15 mins that I may as well just fast forward through to the last 15 mins as that is where the excitment will be. I don't mind the 30 minute iron man matches, though they don't have the same draw as the longer ones I suppose, I remember Kurt Angle and HBK had a pretty good one of those on the RAW Homecoming show back in 2005, even though the ending looked like it was botched and the clock ran out too quickly.

Rock and HHH certainly had great chemistry, I found their feud in early 2000 was superb, probably the best feud I have ever really seen, just that the matches didn't quite live up, but by were no means bad. Everything about that feud was just right though, HHH was mega over and was getting mega heat from having "retired" Foley, and this just put the Rock over massively by him simply standing up to HHH. Loved it at the Royal Rumble when Foley was having the **** beaten out of him and Rock came out to make the save with a chair, I think that match would have to be up there in my top 5 matches ever, was when HHH was still awesome, both guys in that match were so awesome back then, might put it on now actually.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I personally think they did have great matches together though. To pick a few:

2/3 Falls Fully Loaded 98 (for the IC belt. HHH as the face, part of the NOD-DX feud, ended 1-1 with the time limit expiring just as Triple H hit the pedigree)
Ladder match Summerslam 98 (same feud as above, again for the IC belt, HHH got the win but it was the start of Rock getting over as a face despite being a heel)
Summerslam 2000, triple threat with Angle. Going into this one it was all about HHH-Angle, Angle goes and gets a concussion early on, and so it wound up being Rock-HHH for the bulk of it and boy did they put on a classic.

Just a few examples there for me, obviously you disagree and that's fine but personally I thought they always told a great story in the ring.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I personally think they did have great matches together though. To pick a few:

2/3 Falls Fully Loaded 98 (for the IC belt. HHH as the face, part of the NOD-DX feud, ended 1-1 with the time limit expiring just as Triple H hit the pedigree)
Ladder match Summerslam 98 (same feud as above, again for the IC belt, HHH got the win but it was the start of Rock getting over as a face despite being a heel)
Summerslam 2000, triple threat with Angle. Going into this one it was all about HHH-Angle, Angle goes and gets a concussion early on, and so it wound up being Rock-HHH for the bulk of it and boy did they put on a classic.

Just a few examples there for me, obviously you disagree and that's fine but personally I thought they always told a great story in the ring.
yeah tbf I always forget about the Summerslam triple threat, was indeed a great one, shame that Angle did get injured in some ways, as it makes you wonder how things would have panned out otherwise, though perhaps it's better that way, as otherwise Rock and HHH wouldn't have had the chance to put on the show they did. I never much liked the Summerslam 98 Ladder match though, it was alright, but all I remember it for really, was the Rock's....*ahem* Strudel being partially visible through his trunks every time he fell off the ladder, and Mark Henry repeatedly getting his ass handed to him by Chyna who must have punched him in the nuts at least 3 times during that match. Don't think I've ever seen the two out of three falls, may have to youtube it.

And despite saying I never thought they had great matches, if someone asked me for what my favourite match involving the Rock was, I would without hesitation say "Rock vs HHH, Backlash 2000", will always remember that match, don't think I have ever marked out so much in my life other than for that match. The Rock Bottom through the announce table was just epic, and the way the crowd went nuts after the spinebuster was amazing. Good old days. Come to think of it I can't think what my next favourite Rock match would be actually, maybe his one against Hogan or one of his WM matches against Austin. Special mention to his match against Lesnar as well, though I was genuinely saddened at him losing, and actually couldn't believe it (my heart sank after Brock jumped up from the spinebuster) at the time, the way the Rock put Lesnar over was incredible, you really genuinely believed that this amazing athlete, the guy we had all been rooting for and loved for the best part of three years, had really pushed himself to the limit, given it his absolute all, and it still was not enough to get the victory, what a guy, put Lesnar over the moon in one night, and in some ways for mine, that was the Rock's finest performance of all. Just a shame that it was ultimately a waste and Lesnar left the company a short time after.

I lament the way Lesnar went out tbh, not particularly because I liked him a great deal (though he was awesome) or because the E miss him, but because you kind of feel that the whole experience with him put Vince and the E management off giving anyone else a similar push, and has set the trend for the only way new talent gets put over is by feeding them jobbers, which as has alraedy been mentioned in this thread, is just bilge.

Blimey, that was a bit of an essay, didn't intend to write so much.
 
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