Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

[sledger]

Yeah, a game with ECW is a good challenge, playing with the WWE roster is very easy indeed, can pretty much squash the competition and book anything you want.

Might start a game with an updated database and have a go at being in charge of TNA.

 

[sledger]

Apparently Lance Cade is already accepting indy bookings, so looks like he is well and truly done with the E, still no explanation offered for why he's been fired so abruptly.

 

[duffer]

Lance Cade was such a generic jobber who only got a push because of his associtation with HBK. No big loss for mine, I thought Murdoch had far more about him until they screwed him that singing redneck gimmick.

Smackdown does sound interesting, Khali going face has been obvious for a while but a feud with the Big Show as is being speculated in a lot of places does not sound cool to me.

 

[Retox]

Yeah, a game with ECW is a good challenge, playing with the WWE roster is very easy indeed, can pretty much squash the competition and book anything you want.

Might start a game with an updated database and have a go at being in charge of TNA.

Doing a ECW 98 game

Dreamer VS Douglas is my main feud with RVD and Taz my other "big" feud

Really really fun

 

[sledger]

In Jim Ross' latest blog, he somewhat explains why Lance Cade was abruptly let go from WWE this week. According to Ross, it was a disciplinary measure following a bad case of judgment, with concluded with an incident on an airplane.

His release from the company was not due to his performance, most notably, in a tag match with DX on Raw a few weeks ago. Ross wrote: "The story that I have read on many internet sites about the reason for Cade's sudden dismissal isn't accurate. Many punhdits speculate that Cade was dismissed because of a bad performance in a recent TV bout against DX on Raw which is absolutely untrue. Lance's dismissal had zero to do with his in ring performances or his lack of ability." In case you missed it, there was a spot at the end of the match in which Shawn Michaels delivered the SuperKick to Cade. He was supposed to stand wobbly on his feet to run into a Pedigree from Triple H, but fell down instead. Audibly, Triple H told him to get up so he could deliver the move.

Ross doesn't go into detail, only to note that Cade made a bad decision. Following Cade's bad case of judgment, he ended up having a seizure on the plane, which required emergency medical care. Luckily for Cade, Lilian Garcia was on the same flight and helped him get taken to the hospital. Doctors performed a number of tests on him and determined that there was nothing seriously wrong with him.

Following the incident, Ross felt that WWE had no choice but to let Cade go. Ross appears to imply that the seizure was due to Cade's "bad judgment."

Ross wrote: "Lance Cade was dismissed from the WWE because, like many humans, he made a major league mistake while utilizing bad judgment that cost him his job. This included Lance having a seizure on an airplane and having to have emergency medial care. Luckily, Lilian Garcia was on the same flight and was instrumental in helping Lance get taken to a hospital where a battery of tests were run that luckily determined that there was nothing seriously wrong with the young man such as a brain tumor, etc.

Everyone makes mistakes, Lord knows I have made plenty in my career, but in this day and time some mistakes just simply can't be condoned. To some fans, Lance Cade will likely still be perceived as the victim in this matter and his punishment too harsh.

Under the circumstances of the situation, I don't know what other decision the WWE could have made. I'm just relieved that it wasn't me in my former role that would have had to address this matter. I really like this kid and hope that he continues to follow his dreams. Second chances are not foreign in the wrestling business so perhaps that could be in Lance's future but that's just a personal observation."

ITSTL, I assume that this "error of judgement" was something drug or alcohol related...can't think what else would be meant by that.

 

[Majin]

Agree with Duffer, never thought Cade had much going for him other than the fact that he was HBK's student. Still, insanely random of him to get fired, must be somethng shady as Sledger said. Would be interesting to hear the full story.

Wonder if he'll end up in TNA now for a bit? I hope not.

 

[masterblaster]

ITSTL, I assume that this "error of judgement" was something drug or alcohol related...can't think what else would be meant by that.

I think JR's blog sums it all up really. Lance Cade clearly overdosed or used something that shouldn't have been in his system at all and could have possibly cost him his life. Lucky for him Lillian Garcia quite possibly saved his life.

It's a good move by WWE here and I'm very impressed with the way they've handled things after all the events of the past. They're showing good corporate responsibility and the last thing they needed was another wrestling death due to drugs.

Also I love the fact that they are going family friendly. This is again a good sign of good corporate responsibility. No more need for gratutious language, overt ***ualisation of women and excessive violence and chair shots. They have still proved they can produce great storylines without the need for all of these elements (see Jericho vs HBK, Edge vs Undertaker).

The best thing for WWE after all these events is to minimise any sort of controversy from their end. I also like how they've stuck with this wellness policy and have treated all their stars on an equal playing field.

 

[Majin]

No more need for gratutious language, overt ***ualisation of women and excessive violence and chair shots. They have still proved they can produce great storylines without the need for all of these elements (see Jericho vs HBK, Edge vs Undertaker).

What. Jericho/HBK has been a brutal feud with some of the worst beat downs I've seen in wrestling, not to mention bringing in Michael's wife to get smacked about, and Edge and 'Taker were destroying each other in gimmick matches throughout the entire run (although, I must say my favourite match was their Wrestlemania match, just awesome one on one wrestling.)

Anyway while there have been a few good storylines here and there overall I'm still far, far less interested in the product than I am when it was at the height of the attitude era. Sure, they really had a vastly stronger roster back then with several major stars all peaking around the right time with other guys coming up to join them. But the whole product was more interesting watching than it is today. Recently find myself drawn more to TNA than WWE, although that also has to do with the fact that it shows on Bravo at much more convenient times than WWE does.

 

[masterblaster]

What. Jericho/HBK has been a brutal feud with some of the worst beat downs I've seen in wrestling, not to mention bringing in Michael's wife to get smacked about, and Edge and 'Taker were destroying each other in gimmick matches throughout the entire run (although, I must say my favourite match was their Wrestlemania match, just awesome one on one wrestling.)

Anyway while there have been a few good storylines here and there overall I'm still far, far less interested in the product than I am when it was at the height of the attitude era. Sure, they really had a vastly stronger roster back then with several major stars all peaking around the right time with other guys coming up to join them. But the whole product was more interesting watching than it is today. Recently find myself drawn more to TNA than WWE, although that also has to do with the fact that it shows on Bravo at much more convenient times than WWE does.

Well wrestling is a violent sport and there will always be some degree of violence there. I was talking more about your weekly shows like Raw and Smackdown and how they've become more family friendly.

Also with regards to the excessive violence bit, I recently saw Bound For Glory. In the Monster's Ball Tag Match, Brother Ray used a cheese grater on Abyss' face, grated his skin and cut him open and then proceeded to lick the blood of the cheese grater afterwards. I'm sorry, I just don't want to see stuff like that. Wrestlers also went through flaming tables andd tables with thumb tacks. Again, that degree of excessive violence is not needed and I'm glad WWE aren't doing that sort of stuff anymore.

 

[duffer]

Anyway while there have been a few good storylines here and there overall I'm still far, far less interested in the product than I am when it was at the height of the attitude era. Sure, they really had a vastly stronger roster back then with several major stars all peaking around the right time with other guys coming up to join them. But the whole product was more interesting watching than it is today. Recently find myself drawn more to TNA than WWE, although that also has to do with the fact that it shows on Bravo at much more convenient times than WWE does.

Attitude was so unique because we had two different organisations both of whom individually rated twice as highly as WWE does today so we had twice as many people who were over and they were twice as over as well! It'll never be like that again but I'm hoping that one day we can get it back to the previous 2-3 year period before attitude where wrestling was hot but not Attitude hot.

As much as I love Jarret, Angle, Booker amongst others there's just something about TNA that doesn't compel me to watch it every week, rather I'll tune in if I'm at home and it's on. I hope they do well because it could make WWE raise it's game but there's something about the style of TNA which doesn't do it for me.

 

[Majin]

Forgot to mention that I was very into wrestling around the time the E bought WCW as well, the whole alliance Invasion was great stuff, the feuds that we were given with the top guys from rival companies going against each other, in particular Booker T/Austin feud. Not only was it that classic Supermarket bit that everyone loved, but there were so many parts of that feud that had me, espcially the time when Austin came in dressed like a Fireman and the time they were in church. Also that was around the time when the Tag Team division was getting really hot again and constantly churning out top notch matches.

I remember one Smackdown back then that was such an incredble show, IIRC they completely threw storyline out of the window for no apparent reason and the show was just random matches but they were awesome, Dudleyz and Edge and Christian had a great tag team match and then out of nowhere Kurt Angle and Rhyno main evented the show and absolutely tore the place down.

I guess that's part of the thing missing from the E these days, so many of the main event stars are absolute crap wrestlers in comparison to what we had before. Cena can have a good match but he'll never be someone like HHH or Bret Hart, Big guys like Show and Taker obviously have a more physical style, Batista is just ****, etc. Thinking how it wasn't long ago that we had incredible wrestlers like Kurt Angle, HHH, Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Jericho, and RVD mixed in with very solid workers with huge Charisma like Austin, Rock, Foley and so on...it's conflicting because I know guys like CM Punk, Randy Orton and a few others are all good workers but none of the current guys in the WWE really bring out that same feeling that it gave off back then. Most of my favourite matches of recent times involve people who have been around since way back then, like Edge, 'Taker, Jeff Hardy etc. Just hope the next ressurgance of Wrestling will come back just as strong as it did with the Attitude era.

Also I guess that's why I enjoy TNA so much. AJ Styles is so unbeliveably gun, I'd tune in each week soley for his matches tbh. The wrestling on display is generally of a much higher standard and much more consistent than what we get with the WWE. Even just random matches on Impact regularly get going really good. The womens division is actually very enjoyable as well, compared to the joke of the WWE. Jury's out on which company has the hottest birds though.

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

On a side note, has anyone ever used the EWR game? I only discovered it today, but it's like a really advanced version of the SD vs Raw GM mode...and free.....been playing it non stop this afternoon....

If you are willing to shell out some money, take a glance at TEW. Awesome game.

 

[Athlai]

Attitude was so unique because we had two different organisations both of whom individually rated twice as highly as WWE does today so we had twice as many people who were over and they were twice as over as well! It'll never be like that again but I'm hoping that one day we can get it back to the previous 2-3 year period before attitude where wrestling was hot but not Attitude hot.

As much as I love Jarret, Angle, Booker amongst others there's just something about TNA that doesn't compel me to watch it every week, rather I'll tune in if I'm at home and it's on. I hope they do well because it could make WWE raise it's game but there's something about the style of TNA which doesn't do it for me.

TBF the ratings have dropped over time due to the other competition being vastly superior, there is just so much more on television these days. So you can't really compare the rating sizes.

 

[duffer]

TBF the ratings have dropped over time due to the other competition being vastly superior, there is just so much more on television these days. So you can't really compare the rating sizes.

Yep this is true, but it's probably the main reason why wrestlers all down the card aren't as over as they were back then. Not as much exposure.

 

[GotSpin]

Forgot to mention that I was very into wrestling around the time the E bought WCW as well, the whole alliance Invasion was great stuff, the feuds that we were given with the top guys from rival companies going against each other, in particular Booker T/Austin feud. Not only was it that classic Supermarket bit that everyone loved, but there were so many parts of that feud that had me, espcially the time when Austin came in dressed like a Fireman and the time they were in church. Also that was around the time when the Tag Team division was getting really hot again and constantly churning out top notch matches.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0J3LQ0kWL_0&feature=related

One of my favourite moments

And this follow up:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFdBjfePyM&feature=related

 

[masterblaster]

On the latest TNA Impact there was no sight or mention of Christian Cage. Is he done with TNA? Is he heading back to WWE? Does anybody have any latest news on this?

He was jobbed out at Bound For Glory and wasn't even mentioned on Impact. Looks like Christian Cage might be be moving on with his career. Interestingly enough in a recent interview he said that he planned on wrestling for a number of years yet.

Maybe WWE have sent Christian feelers for a possible Wrestlemania program with Edge.

 

[sledger]

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0J3LQ0kWL_0&feature=related

One of my favourite moments

And this follow up:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rUFdBjfePyM&feature=related

Still makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck...one of the loudest pops ever....genuine mark out moment, even now.

 

[sledger]

On the latest TNA Impact there was no sight or mention of Christian Cage. Is he done with TNA? Is he heading back to WWE? Does anybody have any latest news on this?

He was jobbed out at Bound For Glory and wasn't even mentioned on Impact. Looks like Christian Cage might be be moving on with his career. Interestingly enough in a recent interview he said that he planned on wrestling for a number of years yet.

Maybe WWE have sent Christian feelers for a possible Wrestlemania program with Edge.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that Christian will be back in the WWE at some point in the not too distant future. If they manage to get him back in time for WM I'd be surprised....but I think it's obvious to most that Christian won't be hanging around in TNA for much longer, the hints dropped in his recent interviews etc...seem to back this up.

 

[Barney Rubble]

On the latest TNA Impact there was no sight or mention of Christian Cage. Is he done with TNA? Is he heading back to WWE? Does anybody have any latest news on this?

He was jobbed out at Bound For Glory and wasn't even mentioned on Impact. Looks like Christian Cage might be be moving on with his career. Interestingly enough in a recent interview he said that he planned on wrestling for a number of years yet.

Maybe WWE have sent Christian feelers for a possible Wrestlemania program with Edge.

*MARKS OUT UNCONTROLLABLY*

This would be one of the most awesome things that could possibly happen to the WWE. Outside The Rock, Austin, or Foley, Edge and Christian as a tag team are probably the one thing the WWE has missed most since the Attitude Era that it hasn't been able to get back. One of the greatest tag teams of all time has now seen both members become world champions in different promotions, something I don't believe has ever happened before, and the prospect of the two working together again is simply mouth-watering. I just hope WWE keep his return secret enough to make it a surprise.

 

[masterblaster]

*MARKS OUT UNCONTROLLABLY*

This would be one of the most awesome things that could possibly happen to the WWE. Outside The Rock, Austin, or Foley, Edge and Christian as a tag team are probably the one thing the WWE has missed most since the Attitude Era that it hasn't been able to get back. One of the greatest tag teams of all time has now seen both members become world champions in different promotions, something I don't believe has ever happened before, and the prospect of the two working together again is simply mouth-watering. I just hope WWE keep his return secret enough to make it a surprise.

Christian is my favourite wrestler so yeah, I'd mark out too.