*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II

[MrPrez]

Yeah I mean it's a terrible call by the E, they have really **** the bed on the best thing they've had in a very long time, no denying that

It's definitely not a "burial" by any means though, let's not overstate things

Yeah, poor choice of word. It's just an unnecessary and stupid bump in his momentum.

 

[sledger]

Oh I agree 100% on a nope for Seth vs Brock; just that it "makes sense" in WWE's stupid booking minds.

I still maintain that Bray shouldn't have been fighting Seth at all. I know he's the biggest thing etc but the belt really does nothing for him at this point - it's hardly going to make him more over.

Rather give him another biggish-name opponent like the Finn Balor match (although preferably a heel character) and have him destroy them.

Ziggler would have been fun with his selling ability, or perhaps Baron Corbin. Someone who would be big talk going into the match, but get a huge crowd pop for being destroyed by The Fiend.

Yeah, I suspect the logic might have been "if Fiend faces Brock then one of them has to lose, and we can't have that" - lame but predictable

Disagree re: the second point though. Bray is biggest thing in the company, strike while the iron is hot, the reaction to him losing the match shows precisely what they had to gain by putting him over. Not least because loser Seth has been a horrible champ

Ziggler and Corbin are both total geeks and shouldn't be associated with any top level guys at the moment, they have mediocre written all over them (albeit for different reasons - and tbf to Corbin he has improved a lot over the last year or so)

 

[sledger]

Yeah, poor choice of word. It's just an unnecessary and stupid bump in his momentum.

Absolutely

Edit: I mean it's only his second actual match ffs - they are repeating exactly the same mistakes with the original Wyatt character. Lots of creepy segments etc. Very menacing. Then doesn't actually win anything

 

[MrPrez]

Yeah, I suspect the logic might have been "if Fiend faces Brock then one of them has to lose, and we can't have that" - lame but predictable

Disagree re: the second point though. Bray is biggest thing in the company, strike while the iron is hot, the reaction to him losing the match shows precisely what they had to gain by putting him over. Not least because loser Seth has been a horrible champ

Ziggler and Corbin are both total geeks and shouldn't be associated with any top level guys at the moment, they have mediocre written all over them (albeit for different reasons - and tbf to Corbin he has improved a lot over the last year or so)

I just think the belt isn't necessary to put him over. But I understand why people would think the opposite.

Yeah I kinda agree with Ziggler/Corbin, there just aren't many heels who I feel could be used in such a fight effectively and a take a thorough beating without it hurting them unnecessarily (McIntyre) or not being suitable for a cage match at this point (Elias)..

 

[sledger]

I just think the belt isn't necessary to put him over. But I understand why people would think the opposite.

Yeah I kinda agree with Ziggler/Corbin, there just aren't many heels who I feel could be used in such a fight effectively and a take a thorough beating without it hurting them unnecessarily (McIntyre) or not being suitable for a cage match at this point (Elias)..

It's not necessary maybe, but he's the top guy basically, let him have it

And yeah, the E has done a terrible job of building anyone. The biggest heels on RAW were Drew and Lashley. Both then got injured, and Lashers is back in an interracial *** angle, so yeah...

 

[MrPrez]

It's not necessary maybe, but he's the top guy basically, let him have it

And yeah, the E has done a terrible job of building anyone. The biggest heels on RAW were Drew and Lashley. Both then got injured, and Lashers is back in an interracial *** angle, so yeah...

Fair enough. I like pure destruction Fiend but he will have to be in title contention at some point so I guess you might as well..

That said, I don't want to see Bray vs Brock at Survivor Series so perhaps we could have delayed it until after then? And put Seth's title on someone else in the meantime.

AJ could have been fun if he wasn't already wearing the US belt. Could work in some angle with Bray attacking the OC members and getting in AJ's head ahead of their title match.

 

[Dan]

If they had to do something screwy, the better option would have been to have Seth get destroyed and Bray disappear without bothering to pin him. It was never about the title etc.

 

[Jarquis]

Yeah, I suspect the logic might have been "if Fiend faces Brock then one of them has to lose, and we can't have that" - lame but predictable

Well, that was everyone's concern with booking Seth vs The Fiend this early and to their credit, they found a way around that

 

[andmark]

If a HIAC match can end in DQ, then does that mean the cell is there for decoration?

 

[OverratedSanity]

Lmao just listened to the solomonster review, he sounds pissed. Tbf, a DQ in a HITC is about as dumb as anything they couldve come up with.

 

[andmark]

X-Pac was brave by asking the obvious question on a WWE show no less. It could get him into trouble if it wasn't scripted, but simply put, he's right.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Haha Im watching the main event for the lulz and wtf is with Virtual Boy filter ?

 

[MrPrez]

Haha Im watching the main event for the lulz and wtf is with Virtual Boy filter ?

I liked it tbh but it has certainly split the audience.

 

[andmark]

I'm not sure many saw that Tyson Fury thing coming. I guess given his character, it sort of makes sense.

 

[sledger]

Has lols written all over it. Hope it's a disaster.

 

[andmark]

It does feel high risk. Not entirely sure it's high reward though.

 

[Athlai]

Looking forward to episode 2 of Dynamite.

 

[sledger]

It does feel high risk. Not entirely sure it's high reward though.

Fury is a big name, and so far as getting mainstream exposure for the WWE brand it's a big win.

However, I suspect the chances of Strowman coming out of this looking good are slim.

Whatever it is they put together (i.e. whether it's some sort of heavily gimmicked match, or a brawl type-angle) I would be amazed if Fury is prepared to do the job. With this being the case, it's hard to see how Strowman can emerge from this without, to some extent anyway, looking like a loser/weak.

The E would obviously try and spin this as a "no shame in going down fighting to one of the best fighters in the world" sort of thing, but even so, it would just be another big match/angle for Strowman that he will emerge from as a loser.

I suppose they could always go for a "the two enemies unite and become friends to take on some dastardly heels" type thing (e.g. the pair of them beating the hell out of the returning Elias, nfi if he's even fit to go though tbh) but that would be pretty lame.

 

[Athlai]

God I love Dynamite. MJF not turning on Cody, Darby Allin skating down the ramp to attack Jericho. I was just grinning like a dork the whole way through that last ten minutes

 

[sledger]

The Jericho promo was the best bit

V odd that Jurassic Express haven't been featured on either episode so far though