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**Official** Pakistan v New Zealand in the UAE 2014
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I don't think they are; I think you just think they are. You probably say them differently without even thinking about it.
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I'd record myself saying Latham their way and the proper way and upload it but I get the feeling no-one really cares.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You are very right Richard.I don't think they are; I think you just think they are. You probably say them differently without even thinking about it.
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I'd record myself saying Latham their way and the proper way and upload it but I get the feeling no-one really cares.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
These tests in the UAE have received a lot of criticism and negativity due to them being one-sided (so far) and the pitches being roads. It is also a fair criticism to say that on lively pitches, these same Pak batsmen would collapse and post poor totals. However, what has been useful from a Pakistani perspective is the confidence and experience these matches will give to guys like Azhar, Shafiq, Shehzad and Sarfraz. Younis and Misbah aren't going to last long and Pak has to build a strong team after they retire, so the experience these guys are getting in making big hundrerds and putting up long innings is invaluable.
So people can criticise how rubbish and boring these matches are, but it will help the Pak batsmen in the long run and that's good enough for me.
So people can criticise how rubbish and boring these matches are, but it will help the Pak batsmen in the long run and that's good enough for me.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Unless people think Pakistan are only dominating these matches due to winning the tosses -- which I think would be off the mark -- then the only real criticism should be leveled at Australia and New Zealand. It's not like they've been bore-draws, or even silly Adelaide Oval-like games where both teams pile on runs at will early in the game and then the pitch falls apart on Day 5; Pakistan's bowlers have troubled Australia and New Zealand.
Pitch variation is a good thing as long as all three results are still possible after the toss and there's a balance between bat and ball throughout the game. It's frankly not Pakistan's fault that Australia and New Zealand don't have the bowlers to use the conditions. No-one complains about the pitches when Sri Lanka and Bangladesh tour Australia and play a pace-based attack that gets hammered around, and pitches that help fast bowling and hinder spin bowling are no more or less valid than the opposite.
Pitch variation is a good thing as long as all three results are still possible after the toss and there's a balance between bat and ball throughout the game. It's frankly not Pakistan's fault that Australia and New Zealand don't have the bowlers to use the conditions. No-one complains about the pitches when Sri Lanka and Bangladesh tour Australia and play a pace-based attack that gets hammered around, and pitches that help fast bowling and hinder spin bowling are no more or less valid than the opposite.
Not sure.We are only going to know if they have the same success away from home.
If this game was played in nz the situation would be the same just swap the teams around.Im not sure what the benefits are having a top order that only preforms at home after winning the toss, it doesn't suggest long term success at all.
smash84
The Tiger King
Didn't Pakistan win the test series last time they were in NZ?
Yes they did
Results | Global | ESPN Cricinfo
Teja.
Global Moderator
Yeah, AWTA.
The Pakistan pacers haven't done badly either and while scoreboard pressure is a real thing, it isn't as dominant a thing as to justify the sort of hammerings Pak has been handing down.
OverratedSanity
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Why do I not remember this at all?Didn't Pakistan win the test series last time they were in NZ?
Yes they did
Results | Global | ESPN Cricinfo
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
Right on the money PEWS.
All the time these wickets are turning up results I can't see how there is much basis to be criticising them. From Pakistan's POV I think it is a little unfortunate that they have won 3 tosses in a row and batted first.......this is always going to give some the opportunity of claiming these tests were won at the toss which I don't concur with at all.
I've always harbored a soft spot for NZ and I'm wanting them to do well in this series, but in the next test I'd also like to see Pakistan lose the toss, bowl first and then win by an innings to put this train of thought to bed.
Yes true but nz are a average side tbhDidn't Pakistan win the test series last time they were in NZ?
Yes they did
Results | Global | ESPN Cricinfo
Blocky
Banned
No patience or application shown by the batsman, except Latham and Watling.
Disappointing effort, all things considered, our only chance now is to starve the Pakistani's of runs and hold them up as long as we can then put in a marathon draw effort - but with the way our players gave their wickets away, not likely.
Disappointing effort, all things considered, our only chance now is to starve the Pakistani's of runs and hold them up as long as we can then put in a marathon draw effort - but with the way our players gave their wickets away, not likely.
WindieWeathers
International Regular
Like i said...Pakistan will only be seriously challenged by India, SL and WI in their own backyard purely because of the spin talent these sides have...without decent spinners you really haven't got much chance here...good spinners can turn their 500 first innings totals into a 320 or there abouts and then it becomes a totally different ball game.
Apart from Craig's debut in the caribbean it's been been quite evident that if you see off Southee and Boult you're likely to have your way with NZ and that's proven to be the case thus far for Pakistan.
Apart from Craig's debut in the caribbean it's been been quite evident that if you see off Southee and Boult you're likely to have your way with NZ and that's proven to be the case thus far for Pakistan.
BeeGee
International Captain
Me too. I've crunched the numbers and the next toss is going to come up tails. Call tails McCullum, you bastard!