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Generally a graveyard for fast bowlers from what I've seen.
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**Official** Pakistan v New Zealand in the UAE 2014
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RossTaylorsBox
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From a cursory glance at the last tests played there it seems a bit better for the quicks.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
I've written a letter to David White asking that Dunedin not get another test. Largely due to the weather.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
There usually is a bit more in it; Pakistan got rolled in the first innings of both their Tests there last season and lost heavily (against SL and RSA), but when Australia played there a couple of weeks ago it was pretty similar to the Abu Dhabi wicket really.
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Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
So did you also ask that Wellington, Hamilton and Auckland don't get any more tests? Dunedin is much drier than those three. Let's play every test in Napier and get Southee's average back above 40.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Whenever I listen to talkback after we've lost another days cricket in a Dunedin test the locals all confess that always rains during cricket games.
We lost a certain victory once when it rained there and nowhere else in the country.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
I got a long winded answer back by the way. Full of corporate speak. Thanks for your views. We take a lot of factors into account. We try to share the cricket around etc and look forward to your continued support - went on for a full page.
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
This is a tired argument. Dunedin rains no more in the cricket season than anyone else in the country
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Of course its a wind up. David White would think I am a lunatic and they would probably pin my letter on the wall and laugh at it.
Just thought I would get a cheap laugh by posting that. Most people know me well enough not to take me seriously.
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
Would of kept his secretary busy
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
With the bat? Uni Oval can't really throw stones in that department. There's more swing and carry in Napier games as well. The modern Southee and Boult would go alright there, itbt.
ohnoitsyou
International Regular
I wasn't sure. Thought you were trolling and wrote (then deleted) a post accordingly, but its such a hurricane thing to do 
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
I enjoyed your secretary one liner!I wasn't sure. Thought you were trolling and wrote (then deleted) a post accordingly, but its such a hurricane thing to do
Blocky
Banned
So to summarise
"We can't let Sodhi go back to domestic because he won't get enough overs to improve"
"We think Sodhi was the best bowler on display for us because he scooped a couple of wickets when the batsmen went after him, despite him going for more runs in the test than any other bowler"
"Despite Craig having a match win for NZ, we want to throw him away already because he's older and an off spinner"
"Sodhi performed well because he got 8 wickets at 28... despite 6 of the wickets being forgone conclusions"
And in response to that... poppycock.
If Sodhi can't impress at domestic level, why do we want to even give him half a chance? Considering Williamson was throwing down part-timers to a better average, better consistency and more wickets than he was and considering Craig has shown at first class and test level that he can bowl with more consistency than Sodhi. At the moment it's like "Sodhi got a 4/10 in the last innings.. but everyone else was 3/10 so he's worth perservering with" - the problem is, Sodhi getting a 4/10 was his best bowling performance in a black shirt so far.
"We can't let Sodhi go back to domestic because he won't get enough overs to improve"
"We think Sodhi was the best bowler on display for us because he scooped a couple of wickets when the batsmen went after him, despite him going for more runs in the test than any other bowler"
"Despite Craig having a match win for NZ, we want to throw him away already because he's older and an off spinner"
"Sodhi performed well because he got 8 wickets at 28... despite 6 of the wickets being forgone conclusions"
And in response to that... poppycock.
If Sodhi can't impress at domestic level, why do we want to even give him half a chance? Considering Williamson was throwing down part-timers to a better average, better consistency and more wickets than he was and considering Craig has shown at first class and test level that he can bowl with more consistency than Sodhi. At the moment it's like "Sodhi got a 4/10 in the last innings.. but everyone else was 3/10 so he's worth perservering with" - the problem is, Sodhi getting a 4/10 was his best bowling performance in a black shirt so far.
Hurricane
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I don't know what else anyone has to say that hasn't been said. Good on you for trying to prolong life in the thread but I think we need a new topic or some fresh analysis.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
What's the bet the only change will be Rutherford for Craig?
Blocky
Banned
Nah, Wagner will come in for Craig and I think Rutherford might come in for Neesham.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
I like the wagner move and I think he can feel aggrieved for being left out to begin with (what if anything did we learn from the Windies tour)
Neesham may not be very good but he can't be dropped just yet. And I haven't really heard anyone justify to my satisfaction why Rutherford is in the squad (notwithstanding his A team form)
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Neesham didn't really do much in the test and I don't really see him doing anything more on this tour, so I think it'd be fair of that happened. We really do need Wagner and the selectors will continue with Sodhi after his 'haul' in the 1st.
I would wonder if it'd be worth Rutherford dropping down into the middle order ala Joe Root, instead of continuing to fling him out at 1 and hope he repeats his debut? I guess the technical flaws he has probably won't be fixed by being at 5 instead of 1, anyway.
Blocky
Banned
Wagner isn't bowling well at the moment, some technical deficiencies in his action seem to have him falling away at the crease which is robbing him of pace and making his already skiddy bounce of the wicket even lower and slower, but he will try his hardest and I think if nothing else, he will create opportunities even on the most dead and lifeless wicket.
I'd have Neesham ahead of them, but I just get the sense that Corey is the "we like him" man - i.e like Guptill/Sodhi... so they'll keep him in the side. Personally I'd prefer Craig to stay in, Sodhi to drop out for Wagner and for McCullum to open without Rutherford coming in.