'Official' Pakistan in West Indies

[Blaze 18]

Why on earth does the MoM award always seem to go to a dude from the winning side? You can't pick eleven wickets and not win it!

 

[smash84]

yeah should have gone to Ajmal IMO.....bowled better than Sammy I thought

 

[Agent Nationaux]

I hope the next test is also a bowling wicket. Will teach our pathetic batsmen a lesson. Couldn't even use their feet ffs. Needed Sadaf Hussain for this match, he would have been really good. Ashoker needs to be permanently removed. Don't ever want to see his ugly mug ever again.

Congrats to the West Indies supporters.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Gotta love Jimmy Adams. He's on comm duty in our Sky studio and was asked if Ajmal had been the most enjoyable bowler on display.

" 'Enjoyable' isn't the word I'd used to describe his bowling."

Glad to see Jimmy got the memo.

 

[Cevno]

Replace their openers with Gayle and Barath and things start looking quite decent for WI. Now with Bishoo in, they have variety in their attack to back up their pace bowling depth.

With those two back in strengthens their batting a lot.

Though the middle order and the keeper are still a relative weakness.

But then they have Simmons,Dwayne Bravo,Taylor/edwards,Samuels,Benn,Miller etc.. as decent backup alternatives too.

But can trust the WICB selectors and the board to not build from here ,but mess things up.
Which in fact is true of both these teams.

 

[Teja.]

Whoever decided the MotM winner has criminally low IQ.

You can't just decide who wins Motm based on the last Innings, watch the whole game ffs.

 

[Outswinger@Pace]

Wow, talk about irony!

"Yousuf, defying a treacherous pitch quite unsuited for this level of cricket, gave a masterful demonstration of batting to record the 30th century of his first-class career. So fine an innings was this that Ashley Giles, hardly one prone to hyperbole, described it as "the best I've seen in difficult conditions." It was, in Giles' words "proper class."

 

[vcs]

MoTM is a fairly meaningless gong anyway. I guess there must be some awkwardness for a player from the losing team to stand there and talk about how well he batted/bowled when his team couldn't pull off the result. Doubt they give a ****.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Oh how much I miss Asif.

 

[Cevno]

@ Outswinger@Pace
Irony indeed.

But if he did indeed affect team morale badly, it is better that Pakistan move on from Yousuf now.

He has been poor in test cricket for a while and was involved in bad politics in the team allegedly.
Can't just keep going back to him at every bump that comes in the way .Should look at the future now.

Btw, exactly what problem do the Pakistani selectors have with Fawad Alam?

Has done decently in 3 tests.Has a decent ODI record too and a brilliant FC record.

Is a pretty handy bowler too. Surely he deserves a look and a run in the team?.

Are there any discipline issues?

 

[smash84]

But can trust the WICB selectors and the board to not build from here ,but mess things up.
Which in fact is true of both these teams.

awta

Oh how much I miss Asif.

Why do you miss a cheat???

btw came across this....an old ad of the 2Ws

YouTube - 02 Waqar Dream.mpg

 

[Bun]

As long as you're basing it on performance, Sammy doesn't deserve any consideration for the award. Sammy took a 5-fer and was decent in the first Innings. Ajmal was brilliant in both Innings with a 5-fer and a 6-fer

impact on the match. he rallied the troops pretty well, and on the crucial day, when bishoo didnt turn up as expected, took it upon himself...

 

[Austerlitz]

@ Outswinger@Pace
Irony indeed.

But if he did indeed affect team morale badly, it is better that Pakistan move on from Yousuf now.

He has been poor in test cricket for a while and was involved in bad politics in the team allegedly.
Can't just keep going back to him at every bump that comes in the way .Should look at the future now.

Btw, exactly what problem do the Pakistani selectors have with Fawad Alam?

Has done decently in 3 tests.Has a decent ODI record too and a brilliant FC record.

Is a pretty handy bowler too. Surely he deserves a look and a run in the team?.

Are there any discipline issues?

Looks very ugly when batting,similar to a tailender.That may be one reason.Other than that no one ever held PCB in high esteem for competence anyway.

 

[Outswinger@Pace]

@ Outswinger@Pace
Irony indeed.

But if he did indeed affect team morale badly, it is better that Pakistan move on from Yousuf now.

He has been poor in test cricket for a while and was involved in bad politics in the team allegedly.
Can't just keep going back to him at every bump that comes his way .Should look at the future now.

Btw, exactly what problem do the Pakistani selectors have with Fawad Alam?

Has done decently in 3 tests.Has a decent ODI record too and a brilliant FC record.

Is a pretty handy bowler too. Surely he deserves a look and a run in the team?.

Are there any discipline issues?

Fawad Alam and Asim Kamal are two baffling cases for me as well. Asim Kamal is especially suited (temperamentally) to last on a pitch like the one we saw at the Providence.

Too many players seem to have "issues" with the Board. There have been a lot of allegations flying around, but nothing conclusive was revealed. A player of Yousuf's calibre cannot be lost so easily.

I am not sure how much of this is attributable to poor management by the board. If so many players are getting on wrong terms with the Board, then clearly all of them cannot be at fault. Maybe, it is time to ask some tough questions of men who are not used to answering much.

 

[Austerlitz]

Why do you miss a cheat???

Exactly,asif is a continuos serial offender who would only harm pak cricket in the long run.
To guard him sets a bad precedent for the entire young generation.

 

[Cevno]

Looks very ugly when batting,similar to a tailender.That may be one reason.Other than that no one ever held PCB in high esteem for competence anyway.

You are exaggerating a bit from what i have seen.

In any case who cares how he looks as long as he gets the runs?

Just look at Gambhir and Dhoni for example.
Atleast he has shown he can score runs and big innings at first class level.

Besides it's not like Pakistan have a bunch of Sachin Tendulkar's playing for them at the moment.

 

[Austerlitz]

You are exaggerating a bit from what i have seen.

In any case who cares how he looks as long as he gets the runs?

Just look at Gambhir and Dhoni for example.
Atleast he has shown he can score runs and big innings at first class level.

Besides it's not like Pakistan have a bunch of Sachin Tendulkar's playing for them at the moment.

I just said he's aesthetically unpleasant,certainly not that he's not capable.
That decision is as always made by the dear PCB.

 

[smash84]

Fawad Alam and Asim Kamal are two baffling cases for me as well. Asim Kamal is especially suited (temperamentally) to last on a pitch like the one we saw at the Providence.

Too many players seem to have "issues" with the Board. There have been a lot of allegations flying around, but nothing conclusive was revealed. A player of Yousuf's calibre cannot be lost so easily.

I am not sure how much of this is attributable to poor management by the board. If so many players are getting on wrong terms with the Board, then clearly all of them cannot be at fault. Maybe, it is time to ask some tough questions of men who are not used to answering much.

The PCB chairman is a political appointee. This system is not improving unless our political system improves which does not seem to be happening in the near future.

 

[centurymaker]

Yousuf is turning 37 in a couple of months........

 

[Agent Nationaux]

I miss his talent, not his character.