*Official* Pakistan in New Zealand 2020/21

[Athlai]

Where was this Jamieson guy when you went to aus last year?

That's a fun prospect. May finally have a bowler that would excel in Australian conditions

 

[Athlai]

You couldn't pay me to face this ****

 

[Gnske]

I can't recall, was Jamieson highly rated in the domestic threads prior to his test debut? The guy has such BDE.

 

[hendrix]

The whole Test its been difficult to score runs, and also difficult to take wickets. Day 2-3 as you say should be ideal for batting (run-scoring) to move the game along.

I was hoping for a good result pitch to press our chances for the WTC Final - this isn't a typical NZ pitch to me. A draw here, and it's very difficult for us with India looking odds on in Melbourne, so the pressure is well and truly on.

"If NZ repeat the 2-0 result against Pakistan later in their summer, they will end with 420 points from five series.

That will leave India needing five wins - or four wins and three draws - out of their last eight Tests (away against Australia and at home against England) to deny New Zealand a place in the WTC final to be played at Lord's in the English summer."

Yeah but as we know if you make super green pitches then you create a bit of a lottery in the toss and I don't think that gives us the best chance of winning test matches at home. If we'd been sent in on a super green pitch that then flattened out and became easy to score runs on we might have been in trouble here.

We got away with it twice in the last few years, both times at the Basin against Sri Lanka and India because of BJ Watling, but I don't want to be in that situation again.

Some test matches are going to be a little attritional and when we do win those types of matches it gives us a lot of confidence. We can't just roll good side all the time and we can't expect to be able to just have things our way the whole test.

 

[trundler]

Now Boult is getting some swing.

Come on now, give us a chance at least.

 

[hendrix]

I can't recall, was Jamieson highly rated in the domestic threads prior to his test debut? The guy has such BDE.

He definitely wasn't. He was seen in and around a group of OK domestic/NZ-A level bowlers with not much special going on.

 

[Howsie]

He definitely wasn't. He was seen in and around a group of OK domestic/NZ-A level bowlers with not much special going on.

 

[straw man]

I can't recall, was Jamieson highly rated in the domestic threads prior to his test debut? The guy has such BDE.

He definitely wasn't. He was seen in and around a group of OK domestic/NZ-A level bowlers with not much special going on.

Disagree, he was seen as an excellent prospect due to height, accuracy, outswing and had early success - he's always average 25 odd since starting playing domestic FC.

Early on it looked like he was only bowling 125ks, was always going to be very good if he could get that up to mid 130s.

 

[Gnske]

He definitely wasn't. He was seen in and around a group of OK domestic/NZ-A level bowlers with not much special going on.

Thought so, I can barely remember a word about him in between hyping up the meme bowlers like Duffy, Evans and others.

 

[Howsie]

Where was this Jamieson guy when you went to aus last year?

Busy being a net bowler...

Still remember watching him and Matt Henry bowling to Raval during a lunch break of the Boxing Day test last year. Raval couldn’t get bat on ball against Jamieson, he made Henry on the other hand look like a club bowler. The Aussie’s around us couldn’t work out why “the big ****” wasn’t getting a run for us.

 

[hendrix]

Disagree, he was seen as an excellent prospect due to height, accuracy, outswing and had early success - he's always average 25 odd since starting playing domestic FC.

Early on it looked like he was only bowling 125ks, was always going to be very good if he could get that up to mid 130s.

OK well others probably know more about domestic cricket than me but I never remember him being particularly hyped up.

Between him and his peers e.g. Jacob Duffy I don't recall him being seen as a particular standout. And then there were others like Matt Henry et al who were much higher up the pecking order

 

[straw man]

Howsie does deserve a bit of credit here for being the first on the Jamieson train a full five years ago. Don't get a big head now .

 

[straw man]

OK well others probably know more about domestic cricket than me but I never remember him being particularly hyped up.

Between him and his peers e.g. Jacob Duffy I don't recall him being seen as a particular standout. And then there were others like Matt Henry et al who were much higher up the pecking order

May've just been because you loved Duffy iirc.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

I'll have a double Jamieson on the rocks, thanks.

 

[straw man]

Top bowling, so much pressure on Pakistan.

 

[trundler]

Well ****. Nothing going right this morning. Just avoid the follow on somehow.

Not much batting to speak of now.

 

[thierry henry]

I have more patience for slow scoring than anyone but this feels a bit pointless from Pakistan

 

[Binkley]

Good bowling by New Zealand, but the Pakistan batsmen are really letting them get into a groove by playing so defensively.

 

[hendrix]

Top bowling, so much pressure on Pakistan.

Yeah this is the type of stuff we really struggled with in the early years of the Boult-Southee era, and even when we had Wagner it felt like S+B didn't really have that relentlessness to eke out wickets like this. But now it feels like it's pretty routine, at least at home.

 

[Athlai]

Top pressure this and now reaping the rewards