***Official*** Pakistan in New Zealand 2016/17

[hendrix]

How do you pronounce that

Amaan and Aamaan?

3ammaan amaan.

It means "Amman is safe".

 

[Agent Nationaux]

3ammaan amaan.

Ah yes, the Meem has the shadda so join the ein with it with force. Ammaan

But the second one starts with an alif so stretch that. Aamaan

 

[Dick Rockett]

Not for a so called ATG though. And it'll go down a few points by the time the Aus tour ends. Should have already been lower if he hadn't gone finishing during Pak's earlier tours of NZ and Aus

This statsguru filter puts his average outside the subcontinent at 44.19, which is similar to or much better than a lot of very highly rated players in the list.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

He's excluding Zimbos

 

[hendrix]

Ah yes, the Meem has the shadda so join the ein with it with force. Ammaan

But the second one starts with an alif so stretch that. Aamaan

3in isn't the same thing as just a short alif. 3in isn't even a vowel, it's a consonant, so you can hear the difference regardless of the length of the alif. Do you guys say the 3in?

I'm not sure if the alif at the beginning amaan is actually long, as I feel it has a hamza over it. Could be wrong though. I hear it as a shorter alif, anyway.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

Now I understand why Rootfan is referring to Blocky as Aman. There is a poster on PakPassion called Aman with an NZ flag. I wonder if that is Blocky.

 

[Rootfan]

This statsguru filter puts his average outside the subcontinent at 44.19, which is similar to or much better than a lot of very highly rated players in the list.

Oh sorry, I should have included the mighty Zimbabwe! My bad.

 

[Rootfan]

Now I understand why Rootfan is referring to Blocky as Aman. There is a poster on PakPassion called Aman with an NZ flag. I wonder if that is Blocky.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

3in isn't the same thing as just a short alif. 3in isn't even a vowel, it's a consonant, so you can hear the difference regardless of the length of the alif. Do you guys say the 3in?

I'm not sure if the alif at the beginning amaan is actually long, as I feel it has a hamza over it. Could be wrong though. I hear it as a shorter alif, anyway.

Cool. Don't know the technicalities on Arabic.

 

[Dick Rockett]

He's excluding Zimbos

Oh, ok. Here's the adjusted filter. Younis Khan still has similar or better numbers than the likes of Laxman, Ganguly, Sehwag, Jayawardena, Azharuddin and Aravinda De Silva.

 

[Rootfan]

Cool. Don't know the technicalities on Arabic.

That's Urdu, not Arabic. Same difference but yeah.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

That was Arabic because Aman isn't an Urdu word.

Actually Aman does mean peace in Urdu, so it is an Urdu word.

 

[hendrix]

My PTV stream is playing Orion by Metallica as Australia gets destroyed.

 

[Rootfan]

Oh, ok. Here's the adjusted filter. Younis Khan still has similar or better numbers than the likes of Laxman, Ganguly, Sehwag, Jayawardena, Azharuddin and Aravinda De Silva.

Yes and none of them are great batsmen in the truest sense of the word and a couple of them are picked on for being home track bullies. I am not claiming that Aman is a better batsman than Younis Khan, just that he's a FTB who has cashed in big time and saved his stats considerably by not touring outside the SC more often and he voluntarily opted out of earlier tours to Aus and NZ to go fishing.

 

[Dick Rockett]

Oh sorry, I should have included the mighty Zimbabwe! My bad.

All the other players in that filter include Zimbabwe too. No need to be sarky. I linked to an updated filter in my previous post and the point still stands.

 

[hendrix]

That's Urdu, not Arabic. Same difference but yeah.

It's Arabic.

Cool. Don't know the technicalities on Arabic.

I was wondering how you guys pronounce the 3in, because don't you use it in your alphabet? And in the Quran?

 

[Rootfan]

That was Arabic because Aman isn't an Urdu word.

Actually Aman does mean peace in Urdu, so it is an Urdu word.

Lol what? Don't want to sidetrack this thread but I suggest you google the word or we can continue this via pm or in a different thread. Aman is as Urdu as Mustafa Kamal.

 

[Agent Nationaux]

It's Arabic.



I was wondering how you guys pronounce the 3in, because don't you use it in your alphabet? And in the Quran?

Yeah it's in Urdu and Arabic. Hard to describe how it's pronounced but it's a deep sound through the throat in Arabic.

 

[Dick Rockett]

Yes and none of them are great batsmen in the truest sense of the word and a couple of them are picked on for being home track bullies. I am not claiming that Aman is a better batsman than Younis Khan, just that he's a FTB who has cashed in big time and saved his stats considerably by not touring outside the SC more often and he voluntarily opted out of earlier tours to Aus and NZ to go fishing.

Younis Khan averages 51.11 in NZ and 43.16 in Australia.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'great batsmen in the truest sense of the word', but all the men I listed are widely regarded as excellent players. Younis Khan is on their level.

 

[hendrix]

Yeah it's in Urdu and Arabic. Hard to describe how it's pronounced but it's a deep sound through the throat in Arabic.

yeah I know how it's said in Arabic, but I was wondering specifically how Urdu (and maybe Pashto and Farsi speakers) pronounce it, and if it's used in your languages in the same way as it's used in Arabic.