Strange post when the topic of discussion of the last few pages is whether ajmal is a chucker, and the majority of posters have focused on England's shot selection as the biggest factor, don't let facts get in the way?
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***Official*** Pakistan and England in UAE
- Thread starter Agent Nationaux
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smash84
The Tiger King
My pleasure. I had to. I was surprised to find an unbiased statement from you
(lol just kidding)Go defend Jack Hobbs's record with the different LBW rule then
haha.....so true
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
It's gonna be tough waking up at half 5 everyday.
Turbinator
Cricketer Of The Year
Would love to see another controversy this tour.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Lol, I think Vaughan is secretly being a troll. That comment was obviously directed towards the Indians.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Agree with Xuhaib. I hope Realist and Z-man calm down. It's only been 1 day and this England team can come back very strong. I wouldn't celebrate until the Series is over.
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Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Yeah good post. If Ajmal is 0/85 today no one would have said much (barring Brumby). Say it once or twice and move on.
Ajmal's action is dodgy. No doubt. But constantly panning it when he is making your team llook foolish appears like sour grapes, even when it isn't meant to be like that.
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Not convinced he has realised that he's not standing at mid-off anymore.
Also Bob Willis is just been Bob Willis, bleeding grumpy.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
I hope our players don't pull an Ishant or a Kohli
But seriously Misbah and Strauss seem sensible guys and want to concentrate on the cricket.
Fusion
Global Moderator
Awesome start and mighty pleased with it. As has been pointed out though, there’s no reason to get overconfident on the strength of just one day. I expect England to respond much better in the second innings. The key is how much of a lead can we build to put pressure on them.
In regards to Ajmal, my personal opinion is that he does chuck his doosra/teesra. I don’t know for sure though and I wish there were better methods to test for this sort of thing so we don’t have to go through the same tired debate every time he plays a significant part in the bowling. I would say to my fellow Pak supporters though that people questioning his action is a perfectly legitimate point and we don’t have to get so ultra-defensive about it. I would hope that those questioning wouldn’t harp on about it continuously (and I don’t think they have in this thread). Besides, as Prior demonstrated, Ajmal could be played with a sensible approach. He’s not as unbeatable as the English made him out to be today.
In regards to Ajmal, my personal opinion is that he does chuck his doosra/teesra. I don’t know for sure though and I wish there were better methods to test for this sort of thing so we don’t have to go through the same tired debate every time he plays a significant part in the bowling. I would say to my fellow Pak supporters though that people questioning his action is a perfectly legitimate point and we don’t have to get so ultra-defensive about it. I would hope that those questioning wouldn’t harp on about it continuously (and I don’t think they have in this thread). Besides, as Prior demonstrated, Ajmal could be played with a sensible approach. He’s not as unbeatable as the English made him out to be today.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Who said Ajmal wasn't that good?
That'd be why you're standing by it I guess.
You can't have watched Ajmal's bowling today and not think he was a very good bowler imo.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
You're a class act Xuhaib.
I'm sure it'll settle down. We should have a good series ahead of us. I'm not sure how well England can do with the ball but I'm expecting something massive from Trott in the 2nd dig.
Am pretty calm, why wouldn't I be?
but geez if something is there to be said then that's what a forum is for, why so apologetic about this?
I think it's sour grapes to bring up ajmals action, that's the bottom line, England may well draw the test but as soon as they were under the cosh and ajmal was doing well SOME have played this card, poor form.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
If Trott scores big, it will be a very boring match indeed.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
When a lot of posters were trying to move away from the chucking discussion you had to bring it up again. If people complain, just ignore it, ICC have cleared him and that's the end of it.
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
On the positive side of that, you'll learn a proper gardening technique.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
A little scratch here, and some there, after every delivery.