**Official** New Zealand v Australia

[MoxPearl]

No, it's more like our bowlers just don't have the skill needed to play against Australia.

u need MENTAL skill.. we have seen our bowlers bowl the balls in the right places vs <insert any other team in the world>

Yet vs australia they just cant do it.

Phsically u should be able to bowl the ball in the same place regardless of the team your playing.

And they cant do it vs australia simply because they are not mentally fit enuff for it

 

[Ming]

I just love these live odds from the TAB:

One Day Cricket - NZ v Australia-05/03 - Head to Head
1 $10.00 New Zealand
2 $1.02 Australia

 

[Ming]

u need MENTAL skill.. we have seen our bowlers bowl the balls in the right places vs <insert any other team in the world>

Yet vs australia they just cant do it.

Phsically u should be able to bowl the ball in the same place regardless of the team your playing.

And they cant do it vs australia simply because they are not mentally fit enuff for it

Have we seen Canning, McMillan, Mills and Hamilton consistently putting the ball in the right places against other teams? No, we haven't.

Nothing to do with this mental ****, our bowlers just aren't good enough in this game, except for Vettori.

 

[Sir Redman]

It is quite depressing to think that we have these academies and coaching clinics teaching our bowlers all sorts of different things (visualisation etc) yet they dont seem to give the message to bowl a good line and length. What the hell is the point of teaching someone to visualise a delivery if they dont have the brains to realise that if you dont bowl in the right areas you get pummeled?
I expect club bowlers I face to bowl more consistently than Mills, Canning etc.

On the subject of Canning he is such a nothing player I dont know how he can get near an international side. He cant bowl well enough and cant bat well enough, yet he (and the NZ selectors) seems to have an inflated idea of his own abilities from what Ive heard from him.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

And NZ is the second best OD side in the world. I think this series shows how far ahead the Aussies are from the rest of the world.

I think Sri Lanka might have something to say about that now.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

On the subject of Canning he is such a nothing player I dont know how he can get near an international side. He cant bowl well enough and cant bat well enough, yet he (and the NZ selectors) seems to have an inflated idea of his own abilities from what Ive heard from him.

He wasn't great, but he impressed me more than Hamilton. Vettori and then Mills were clearly the best NZ bowlers, but Canning at least got a few balls in the right area and troubled Ponting a couple of times with steep bounce close to his body. Most of what he bowled was utter trash of course, but at least he showed a little bit, which is more than Hamilton.

 

[Eclipse]

And to think New Zealanders took such offence when i said we would win the ODI series..

 

[chaminda_00]

I think Sri Lanka might have something to say about that now.

It is pretty obvious who is second best in the world now , it been a really average series by the Kiwis and it doesn't look like they will get much better in Tests, considering Richarson retired, their best Test Batsmen IMO, and they don't look like filling Carins gap any time soon.

I wish Sri Lanka could play some ODIs aganist the Kiwis in this form, we would show that we are undoubtly the second best side in the world. We are still a fair way behind Australia but their is plenty of time to narrow the gap by the 2007 WC.

 

[Ming]

Brett Lee - 161km/h

 

[Arrow]

Brett Lee - 161km/h

Is that the record?

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Brett Lee - 161km/h

Two balls in a row he did it, in fact. No decimal points in this game and no mph counter, so it's hard to know if it broke the record.

The record for what it's worth is 100.04 mph, which is 161.604 kph, set by Akhtar. Hard to say if either of Lee's deliveries broke it, but they certainly got damn close.

 

[Jono]

u need MENTAL skill.. we have seen our bowlers bowl the balls in the right places vs <insert any other team in the world>

Yet vs australia they just cant do it.

Phsically u should be able to bowl the ball in the same place regardless of the team your playing.

And they cant do it vs australia simply because they are not mentally fit enuff for it

That's weird, because its always spouted by experts and NZ fans alike, that "NZ lift their game when they come against the Aussies". Now you're saying its the exact opposite?

 

[Somerset]

Craig Cumming goes to a questionable LBW decision. Really, Lee had no right to celebrate the wicket in the way he did, that certainly is intimidating the umpires IMO.

 

[Somerset]

Two balls in a row he did it, in fact. No decimal points in this game and no mph counter, so it's hard to know if it broke the record.

The record for what it's worth is 100.04 mph, which is 161.604 kph, set by Akhtar. Hard to say if either of Lee's deliveries broke it, but they certainly got damn close.

I was listening to Radio Sport at this point and they mentioned the record was 163km/h. That seems to be a mistake so they've given the wrong impression to those listening.

Still great pace from Brett Lee to reach 161km/h, especially considering he was still in his opening over.

 

[Scallywag]

Craig Cumming goes to a questionable LBW decision. Really, Lee had no right to celebrate the wicket in the way he did, that certainly is intimidating the umpires IMO.

Are you saying Lee intimidated the umpire into giving a bad decision.

 

[Ming]

Craig Cumming goes to a questionable LBW decision. Really, Lee had no right to celebrate the wicket in the way he did, that certainly is intimidating the umpires IMO.

How was the appeal initmidating? He was confident that it was out, that's all.

 

[Somerset]

How was the appeal initmidating? He was confident that it was out, that's all.

The only problem was that it shouldn't have been given, but Lee's confidence would've made the umpire more likely to put the finger up. I wouldn't have had a problem if it should've been out.

 

[Somerset]

Are you saying Lee intimidated the umpire into giving a bad decision.

To a certain extent, yes. Have you seen the decision, Scallywag?

 

[Scallywag]

To a certain extent, yes. Have you seen the decision, Scallywag?

No I can only get radio coverage, but I believe Lee had Cummings plumb in the first over taking middle and leg but the umpire turned it down. Thats why I asked the question.

Did they show hawkeye and if they did was it going to miss.

 

[Somerset]

No I can only get radio coverage, but I believe Lee had Cummings plumb in the first over taking middle and leg but the umpire turned it down. Thats why I asked the question.

Did they show hawkeye and if they did was it going to miss.

I haven't seen that decision so can't comment. Hawkeye was shown and Cumming, who was batting out of his crease anyway, was struck with the ball heading down leg side.

Kasprowicz makes a double blow, Fleming and James Marshall gone, and with Cairns unlikely to bat(?), our chances are increasingly slim.