Prince EWS
Global Moderator
And when you're saying that about Ryder, you know he's done something ****ing awesome.
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*Official* New Zealand in India 2010
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Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
It's quite exciting to think that in a couple of years time, we could have a top order of:
McCullum
Raval/Brodie/worst case scenario McIntosh
Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Vettori
That looks a pretty classy top six if you ask me. Although I still reckon there's a lot of potential to be 5/150 a lot of the time
McCullum
Raval/Brodie/worst case scenario McIntosh
Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Vettori
That looks a pretty classy top six if you ask me. Although I still reckon there's a lot of potential to be 5/150 a lot of the time
Flem274*
123/5
Ryder was always talked up as being the better, more complete batsman than Taylor all through the grades. However Taylor's work ethic paid him divedends of course and he leapfrogged Ryder.
Jess is viewed down here as a bit of a soft **** who makes pretty starts but wastes his talent. Off the field he is an idiot, no question, and he's a frustrating ODI batsman, but every time I've seen him in tests he's looked like test batting is where he's meant to be in life. Jesse's character is at its best with bat in hand. That's twice he's pulled us from a tricky position with a gutsy century. In fact today he was extremely out of form at the start but gritted his teeth and fought for every run. He might be ******** off the field but on it he's a tough mother****er who has a fantastic mix of talent and character.
Jess is viewed down here as a bit of a soft **** who makes pretty starts but wastes his talent. Off the field he is an idiot, no question, and he's a frustrating ODI batsman, but every time I've seen him in tests he's looked like test batting is where he's meant to be in life. Jesse's character is at its best with bat in hand. That's twice he's pulled us from a tricky position with a gutsy century. In fact today he was extremely out of form at the start but gritted his teeth and fought for every run. He might be ******** off the field but on it he's a tough mother****er who has a fantastic mix of talent and character.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Agreed, though I would've liked to have seen us score another 40 or 50 runs. There's still potential for us to be rolled tomorrow morning and concede a huge first innings deficit.
Anyone else notice that Jesse seems to lose concentration when he reaches a big milestone. On three occasions now he's got out immediately after reaching a hundred (the single century in the case of his first and most recent, and the double during the napier test). Admittedly in the case of his first century he was batting with Marto, so you can kind of understand him slogging it and getting out. But still it's probably something for him to keep in mind.
Anyone else notice that Jesse seems to lose concentration when he reaches a big milestone. On three occasions now he's got out immediately after reaching a hundred (the single century in the case of his first and most recent, and the double during the napier test). Admittedly in the case of his first century he was batting with Marto, so you can kind of understand him slogging it and getting out. But still it's probably something for him to keep in mind.
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah, you've almost got back the point you were at in between Richardson and Fleming's retirements - a Test standard middle order with a revolving door policy on several terrible openers.
McCullum did surprise me a bit though, I must admit. He got to 15 or so exactly how I expected him to.. by just throwing the bat at everything in a way that definitely won't work consistently on many pitches.. but after that he really settled down and played a proper innings. He could be a decent top order player yet.
Please though, no more Twatling or Guptill until they score score some runs in First Class cricket.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah, Ryder's batting maturity in First Class/Test cricket is extremely under-rated due to several factors - his lifestyle, work ethic, one day batting etc etc. Every indication about his batting in the longer form has been good.
Flem274*
123/5
What this team needs is more Central Districts.
Sinclair or How for Twatling. Least Skippy would have charged Ojha.
Flem274*
123/5
Now we just need to sort the bowling. There are some prospects, but like the batting just after Fleming's retirement, they're all a couple of years off.
In the meantime, we need to select the good but untried middle aged seamers like Arnel and persist with Southee. Martin can get ****ed.
In the meantime, we need to select the good but untried middle aged seamers like Arnel and persist with Southee. Martin can get ****ed.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Pity there isn't someone else we can put in at 6 so that Vettori can bat 7 just so that we bat deeper.
Need another prodigy
Flem274*
123/5
Weston.Pity there isn't someone else we can put in at 6 so that Vettori can bat 7 just so that we bat deeper.
Need another prodigy
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Reckon that wicket could be a pivotal moment of the match. Ball is taking some bite, could get tough to bat on later.
It's why the amount of balls Williamson and Ryder faced along with their runs is so important. Hurt India's chances of forcing a victory, but its not all over.
It's why the amount of balls Williamson and Ryder faced along with their runs is so important. Hurt India's chances of forcing a victory, but its not all over.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
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