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Leslie1

U19 Captain
If Ryder comes back, should McCullum shift back to mid-lower order? He's over his euphoria of charging down wickets mode, and this series has been a downer for him since moving to open.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Excellent work at the end of the innings by Oram, Styris and Elliot.

It took Styris 75 balls to reach his half-century, then he proceeded to clobber 34 runs from 16 balls. England's death bowling was shocking though, they conceeded 96 runs in the last 10 overs.

Sidebottom went from 8-24 to 10-52, Broad 8-26 to 10-50 and Anderson 8-24 to 10-46. Terrible stuff. Feeling pretty confident about the game now.
 

Leslie1

U19 Captain
If England win it from here, it'll be tough luck to the Kiwis.... but enough signs here that we are a good side, so I'll be satisfied even if we lose the game.

Bowling shows promise, batting shows promise, fielding's been good, we have a few genuine world class players in the side.

If only the Tests start after the ODI series.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
If Ryder comes back, should McCullum shift back to mid-lower order? He's over his euphoria of charging down wickets mode, and this series has been a downer for him since moving to open.
I'd get both Ryder and McCullum opening. With Oram, Mills, potentially Franklin theres plenty of firepower down the order. Gives more potential for a flying start and dominating finish than just staking the lower order with power.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Wright looked really good to start off with, as did Swann.

Nonsense bringing Cook in, what does Dimi have to do to get selected FFS, this is bordering on insanity. Not only is he a much better fielder, infinitely a better bowling but he is arguably a more useful batsman (in ODI format, obv). Ridiculous.
 

Leslie1

U19 Captain
Wright looked really good to start off with, as did Swann.

Nonsense bringing Cook in, what does Dimi have to do to get selected FFS, this is bordering on insanity. Not only is he a much better fielder, infinitely a better bowling but he is arguably a more useful batsman (in ODI format, obv). Ridiculous.
Could this preferriantial treatment has something to do with Central Contracts, so therefore Cook always get the first choice just because he has a C C?
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If Ryder comes back, should McCullum shift back to mid-lower order? He's over his euphoria of charging down wickets mode, and this series has been a downer for him since moving to open.
Nah, would need Ryder to score some runs domestically or on tour games before he got back into the side. Then I'd probably move How to #3 and drop Elliot.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
Nah, would need Ryder to score some runs domestically or on tour games before he got back into the side. Then I'd probably move How to #3 and drop Elliot.
Personally I'd be more inclined to drop Flynn than Elliott.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Possibly, which would make the situation even more farcial. I mean, Cook is a pretty crap ODI player in all honesty.
He averages 30, albeit it with a slow strike rate. I wouldn't call that crap, especially for a young guy in a **** team. Has scored some decent runs for Essex too, but I agree with you. More based on team balance than Dimi>Cook.
 

Leslie1

U19 Captain
Nah, would need Ryder to score some runs domestically or on tour games before he got back into the side. Then I'd probably move How to #3 and drop Elliot.
TBF I was totally against his selection when Oram got injured, but since he's been in this side he has not only turned the side around, but also provide us with the odd bowling spell.

What about dropping a bowler (Gillespie)?

So you get

ODI
Ryder, McCullum, How, Taylor, Styris, Flynn, Oram, Elliott, Vettori, Mills, Southee

TEST
How, Ryder, Flynn, Taylor, McCullum, Oram, Elliott, Vettori, Mills, Southee, Martin
 

Perm

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Personally I'd be more inclined to drop Flynn than Elliott.
Possibly for the short term, but I can't see Elliot being much more than a bits and pieces cricketer TBH. Probably deserves to retain his spot on form though.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
TBF I was totally against his selection when Oram got injured, but since he's been in this side he has not only turned the side around, but also provide us with the odd bowling spell.

What about dropping a bowler (Gillespie)?

So you get

ODI
Ryder, McCullum, How, Taylor, Styris, Flynn, Oram, Elliott, Vettori, Mills, Southee

TEST
How, Ryder, Flynn, Taylor, McCullum, Oram, Elliott, Vettori, Mills, Southee, Martin
Three specialist bowlers for the ODI team? Nah, too risky I reckon. Also, Ryder isn't a FC opener and Fulton>>>Flynn as a potential Test #3.
 

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TEST
How, Ryder, Flynn, Taylor, McCullum, Oram, Elliott, Vettori, Mills, Southee, Martin
I wouldn't play Elliott in Tests. He was poor when he played earlier in the year, and his domestic stats strongly suggest he's a lesser player in the longer form of the game.
 

Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
TBF I was totally against his selection when Oram got injured, but since he's been in this side he has not only turned the side around, but also provide us with the odd bowling spell.

What about dropping a bowler (Gillespie)?

So you get

ODI
Ryder, McCullum, How, Taylor, Styris, Flynn, Oram, Elliott, Vettori, Mills, Southee

TEST
How, Ryder, Flynn, Taylor, McCullum, Oram, Elliott, Vettori, Mills, Southee, Martin
I almost think your ODI side has too much batting, as ironic as it sounds. I'd rather have an out and out bowler (Franklin or Gillespie or Mason) in place of Flynn or Elliott, rather than relying on Styris and Elliott to bowl at least 10 overs every match.

Ryder opening the batting in test matches is an interesting option, not totally convinced.
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Anyone listened to the Ozias Bvute interview on TMS? What a despicable guy, pretty much did his best to totally ostracize whites from cricket in Zim, raving about Kirsty Coventry as a Zimbabwean success story in the swimming.. :(
 

Leslie1

U19 Captain
Zimbabwe- I wonder how the hell Mugabe gets so rich?~


Mills - I hope he reigns it in for the last 7 overs. Not a good start.
 

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