I can't see them giving someone a debut for the first ashes test so it depends on how Bairstow goes in this test I would guess. KP fitness still could be an issue as well of course.
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***Official*** New Zealand in England series 2013
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wellAlbidarned
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C'mon Boulteh
straw man
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Cook and Trott are providing an excellent example of playing in difficult conditions here. Very restrained, leaving the ball wherever possible, not concerned when receive something that goes past outside edge or in that case, just misses stumps. Our batsmen could learn a lot, obv.
hendrix
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Was thinking about Brownlie's dismissal the other day.
It was a nice set-up and all, but he did predict the outswinger to follow the inswing. If he'd been playing for the inswinger, he would have played inside the line.
I think Martin Crowe said something similar in terms of dealing with Wasim and Waqar; play for the inswinger. You might miss it by miles, but it's better than edging it.
Of course, you still need to be able to get across and cover the line.
It was a nice set-up and all, but he did predict the outswinger to follow the inswing. If he'd been playing for the inswinger, he would have played inside the line.
I think Martin Crowe said something similar in terms of dealing with Wasim and Waqar; play for the inswinger. You might miss it by miles, but it's better than edging it.
Of course, you still need to be able to get across and cover the line.
Howe_zat
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He is doomed to be described as "hard-working", whether it'll be euphamistic or patronising I'm not sure
Bahnz
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You can't really do that with Anderson, as the outswinger is his stock delivery.
straw man
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Yep, at Lord's iirc Fulton, Brownlie, Watling, McCullum and Taylor all edged behind balls that they were drawn into playing outside off and were very very similar to some of the balls Southee has bowled here. But Trott not so easily sucked in.
Beautiful ball from Southee there past Cook's edge
Prince EWS
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Batting doesn't really work like that. He was done by the delivery because he followed it with his hands.
hendrix
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"a poor man's Peter Siddle" is a very, very generous description.
That said, I thought he was ok in the last test and he has seemed to have been picking up wickets. Someone else said he was the anti-Boult in that he bowls crap deliveries but somehow finds wickets, whereas Boult bowls beauties that either go past the edge or are dropped.
That said, I thought he was ok in the last test and he has seemed to have been picking up wickets. Someone else said he was the anti-Boult in that he bowls crap deliveries but somehow finds wickets, whereas Boult bowls beauties that either go past the edge or are dropped.
hendrix
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That's what I mean though.
If he was setting himself up to protect his stumps from the inswinger he wouldn't have had time to react to the outswinger.
I dunno, it's just a theory.
I've never actually faced a bowler who could legitimately swing it both ways.
flibbertyjibber
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Decent hour of cricket that, NZ have bowled well but Cook and Trott have batted well so far and are doing what is needed. Have to get to lunch no more than 2 down and batting should become easier as the day goes on.