**Official** New Zealand in Australia Thread

[marc71178]

Hence he was fodder...

 

[Craig]

So would somebody prove to be fodder if they bowled well, but didn't always get any luck, yet a lot of edges, misfields, contributed to a higher RPO?

 

[Craig]

Some more photos:

First one is of the ground staff, Kyle Mills have a practise bowl near the players entrence, New Zealanders walking out onto the field, New Zealanders getting into fielding positions, Chris Martin to Justin Langer (they are all in tha order).

 

[Craig]

Some more:

 

[Scallywag]

I thought Gilchrist was a bit harsh to give McMillan a talking to about not walking after seeing the replay (don't think McMillan would have been stupid enough to start the conversation, "Lucky I didn't walk huh?" don't think so...), considering he would have seen the replay of McCullum missing the ball by miles and since McCullum is IMO a better batsman than McMillan, and considering how impressively McCullum behaved when given that decision, Gilchrist could have let it go as evening it up, and also since Langer didn't walk for an edge as obvious as McMillan's.

http://www.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat..._NZ_WC2003_ODI-SUPSIX7_14MAR2003_LIVE_MR.html

Fleming even resorted to Craig McMillan's bowling for the first time in the tournament and conceding only four runs from the two overs, although he did earn a piece of tape over his mouth from umpire Peter Willey after a very talkative over bowled to Kaif.


Whats this double standards from the Kiwis. McMillan loves to tell batsmen when they are out but gets all upset if he is told he is out. If NZ want to complain about Gilly then maybe they should get their own house in order first.

Great stuff Gilly, Mcmillan is a hypocrite.

 

[tooextracool]

Imagine Gilchrist batting with Langer, who gets a blatant edge and doesn't walk. What would Gilchrist say? "Mate you edged that, off you go!" or to the umpire "He nicked that one!"
Not likely.

or if he ever said that to his former captain.....

 

[tooextracool]

And you could question the tatics of bowling short.

especially when you dont have any pace

 

[tooextracool]

I thought Gilchrist was a bit harsh to give McMillan a talking to about not walking after seeing the replay (don't think McMillan would have been stupid enough to start the conversation, "Lucky I didn't walk huh?" don't think so...), considering he would have seen the replay of McCullum missing the ball by miles and since McCullum is IMO a better batsman than McMillan, and considering how impressively McCullum behaved when given that decision, Gilchrist could have let it go as evening it up, and also since Langer didn't walk for an edge as obvious as McMillan's.

pity about mccullum, i was looking forward to seeing what might be a very very good batsman really take it to the aussie attack, but thanks to one poor decision and one questionable one, we didnt get to see that.

 

[JustTool]

Looks like, for all their posturing in India, Ponting has finally spoken up and said the Aussies will continue to try to cheat when they can - it is inane, and typical Aussie hypocrisy, that they should sledge opposing batsmen for not walking while their captain is saying this:

Australian captain Ricky Ponting said Gilchrist was the only declared "walker" in the Australian team and there was no such expectation on opposing sides to do likewise.

"I have to look after what my team is doing and hope that we can change things slightly in the game there, but it's up to New Zealand to do whatever they want to do," he told his post-match press conference.

"We've got one player in our side who walks. We've got one player who has come out and said he's going to be a walker now.

"It doesn't put any pressure on anybody else, it doesn't change anything else whatsoever.

"Adam doesn't expect it of anybody else - he doesn't expect anybody else to walk. He doesn't expect it of our team either."

-AFP

 

[Scallywag]

Looks like, for all their posturing in India, Ponting has finally spoken up and said the Aussies will continue to try to cheat when they can - it is inane, and typical Aussie hypocrisy, that they should sledge opposing batsmen for not walking while their captain is saying this:

Australian captain Ricky Ponting said Gilchrist was the only declared "walker" in the Australian team and there was no such expectation on opposing sides to do likewise.

"I have to look after what my team is doing and hope that we can change things slightly in the game there, but it's up to New Zealand to do whatever they want to do," he told his post-match press conference.

"We've got one player in our side who walks. We've got one player who has come out and said he's going to be a walker now.

"It doesn't put any pressure on anybody else, it doesn't change anything else whatsoever.

"Adam doesn't expect it of anybody else - he doesn't expect anybody else to walk. He doesn't expect it of our team either."

-AFP

If it win games so what, nice guys finish last.

 

[shaka]

I think Bucknor should retire immediately, I dont think he is up to taking the stress of umpiring for another few tests in order to reach 100. Well past his best

 

[cric_manic]

let him get to 100 at least then he should retire

 

[Scallywag]

Finding someone who will put up with the constant whinging and complaining from certain teams and supporters will be hard to do. There is nothing wrong with Bucknor just some peoples attitude towards umpires and their inability to accept the umpires decision.

 

[cric_manic]

poor umpires dont last long in international cricket,so he has lasted 95 that must say something

 

[Darrin]

**official** New Zealand in Australia Thread

Im sick of the you aussies trying to become moral guardians of cricket. How many australian batsmen over the years have been given not out after having nicked it? We also have the Martin Sneeden catch in the early 1980's, the underarm from chappell. Mathew sinclair stands his ground because he's wasn't sure it was caught or not and he becomes a leper in the aussies eyes.
Adam cilchrist trying to be holier than thou.

The only hypcrites around here and on this forum happen to be the aussies, and in particular 'the scallywag'. It seems th me that if the aussies do it thats fine, but if it's someone else doing it to them they're a leper, and a 'hypocrite'. come on get real and grow up there's a big world out there that you are missing.

 

[Darrin]

**official** New Zealand in Australia Thread

Is it any surprise that John bracewell was a friend of martin sneeden, and got the job. but on the basis of what his one-day it seems because he can't select(given his u-turns), and he can't coach test-cricket either. why dont we have 2-coaches, one for test, and one for one-day cricket?

What i propose is aberhart for tests, and bracewell for one-dayers.

That is what should have happened, then and only then can we succeed in BOTH forms and not just one.

Too Radical? i'd be interested in your thoughts.

 

[cric_manic]

Is it any surprise that John bracewell was a friend of martin sneeden, and got the job. but on the basis of what his one-day it seems because he can't select(given his u-turns), and he can't coach test-cricket either. why dont we have 2-coaches, one for test, and one for one-day cricket?

What i propose is aberhart for tests, and bracewell for one-dayers.

That is what should have happened, then and only then can we succeed in BOTH forms and not just one.

Too Radical? i'd be interested in your thoughts.

ive been thinking that for a while now ,it has to be done our test match record is to poor for it to stay like this

 

[Scallywag]

Im sick of the you aussies trying to become moral guardians of cricket. How many australian batsmen over the years have been given not out after having nicked it? We also have the Martin Sneeden catch in the early 1980's, the underarm from chappell. Mathew sinclair stands his ground because he's wasn't sure it was caught or not and he becomes a leper in the aussies eyes.
Adam cilchrist trying to be holier than thou.

The only hypcrites around here and on this forum happen to be the aussies, and in particular 'the scallywag'. It seems th me that if the aussies do it thats fine, but if it's someone else doing it to them they're a leper, and a 'hypocrite'. come on get real and grow up there's a big world out there that you are missing.

All Adam Gilchrist has said was if he thinks he's out he will walk. Now every tom **** and harry think he should walk if they think hes out (regardless of what Gilchrist thinks) and if he doesent then hes a hypochite. So tell me exactly what Gilchist said to Mcmillan for him to cop all this abuse (yeah thats right nobody knows but that doesent stop anyone from making up something and then using that to abuse Gilchrist). Wheres the logic in what you are saying Darrin. Can you point out where Gillchrist is trying to be holier than thou, I bet you cant without making up something or because its not what you expected. There is far more finger pointing and blaming the Aussies on this forum than anything else. Its people like you who will go on for years about how bad Warne is then turn around and say Aussies pick on Murali, remind me again what a hypochrite is.

 

[Scallywag]

And one more thing Darrin its allways just after their team gets beat by Australia that these worms come out of the woodwork trying to tarnish the image of Australian players. Ponting and Gilchrist have only (and made a point of saying it) refered to what they expect from Australian players yet you decide that they are trying to be moral guardians of cricket.

Go sook somewhere else mate.

 

[bryce]

Looks like, for all their posturing in India, Ponting has finally spoken up and said the Aussies will continue to try to cheat when they can - it is inane, and typical Aussie hypocrisy, that they should sledge opposing batsmen for not walking while their captain is saying this:

Australian captain Ricky Ponting said Gilchrist was the only declared "walker" in the Australian team and there was no such expectation on opposing sides to do likewise.

"I have to look after what my team is doing and hope that we can change things slightly in the game there, but it's up to New Zealand to do whatever they want to do," he told his post-match press conference.

"We've got one player in our side who walks. We've got one player who has come out and said he's going to be a walker now.

"It doesn't put any pressure on anybody else, it doesn't change anything else whatsoever.

"Adam doesn't expect it of anybody else - he doesn't expect anybody else to walk. He doesn't expect it of our team either."

-AFP

i must of missed something here but which player has said they are going to be a walker ?