***Official*** New Zealand Domestic Season 2018/19

[wellAlbidarned]

Yeah. I am sure I have said it here before, but Mike Sears was my club captain back in my playing days and is a truly awesome bloke. He is a cop now, and pops up on the news every now and then as a Police spokesman when a crime has been committed in Wellington.

clearly needs to put more effort into pulling up hipsters for their fashion crimes

 

[Immenso]

Surprised to see Wellington didn't play at all over Wellington Anniversary long weekend.

Just looked at the schedule to see if it was administratively possible, it was.

They're playing 1 game a week! Wellington are part way through a 9 day gap.

When will this comp bloody finish, it's taking 2 months for them to play 10 T20 games each! Christ, we'll be as hopeless as the Australians soon if we keep this structure.

 

[Athlai]

I look forward to the FC games all getting rained off because we didn't play any ****ing cricket in Jan.

 

[NZTailender]

I always liked the old Sheffield Shield system of games. FC match, 1 or 2 days break then the List A follow up. Rinse and repeat. Spose in this day and age if you added T20s in you'd need at least 10 days to get through two teams playing each other.

 

[Immenso]

I always liked the old Sheffield Shield system of games. FC match, 1 or 2 days break then the List A follow up. Rinse and repeat. Spose in this day and age if you added T20s in you'd need at least 10 days to get through two teams playing each other.

I like that too.

Although I'd keep the T20 separate for the holiday crowds and oversea imports reasons.. But it should be all over in 3 weeks. Boxing day to mid-January.

I was thinking even David Bloody White should know that. Back when he played they got through their Shell Cup games once every 2 days. But looking it up in the archive I see he retired just as they changed Shell Cup from 1 round (5 games) to 2 rounds (10 games). But the first season of the extended 10 round Shell Cup in 93/94 got the 10 rounds done in 22 days (27 Dec to 17 Jan).

(They then immediately each played a round of the Shell Trophy before playing the semis and finals a week after then end of the Cup round-robin). Imagine that, playing some actual cricket. Poor buggers.

 

[NZTailender]

The format of the Ford Trophy is atrocious. it's now over and there's 2 ODI series to play before the World Cup. Considering we now have specialist OD/T20/FC teams, anyone who you call in for backup will be in T20 or FC mode/form.

Agree WRT having a T20 tournament in the middle, but the OD stuff should be spread out with the FC. If they're acknowledging it's not as profitable as T20 in terms of crowds, link it back to FC schedule so you can have a touring squad etc. Have the FC games starting Sunday or Monday so you can have Friday D/N / Saturday day matches for the crowds.

 

[Athlai]

What about have 2 FC games scheduled, and the other two teams play 2-3 List A games against one another for part of the season? Theoretically you can knock out all the List A **** in 5 or so weeks, and still be halfway through the FC stuff. May even save a bit on travel expenses by having back to back games at the same city and venue.

 

[Immenso]

With the absolute dearth of actual domestic cricket during the domestic cricket season. I’m following the U17s.

Young fella by the name of Sam Ferguson has scored a 200 and a 100 for CD in first 4 games. (I see he is out cheap today)

God bless the provincial newspapers, long may they continue.

Courtesy of the Wanganui Chronicle, lumped under the godawful NZHearld conglomerate website:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=12194331

 

[Immenso]

I see the players weren't in favour of less actual domestic cricket. They're missing out on 3k each in match fees.

from: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...65-per-cent-revenue-share-in-master-agreement

One talking point was the reduction of Plunket Shield from 10 rounds to eight, which irked the CPA when NZC chief executive David White raised the prospect last year as a cost-saving measure.

A compromise was reached whereby the Ford Trophy increased by two matches to 10 rounds, and NZC agreed to schedule one home and one away New Zealand A tour each year to guarantee the top domestic players at least 10 first-class matches.

NZA will face Pakistan A in the United Arab Emirates in October, and host India A in December.

I do concede that NZC need to take from one hand to give to the other. I won’t bag David White for this. NZ A cricket is good and a fair compromise.

As the revenue incrementally increases as per https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...rom-overhaul-of-world-cricket-financial-model I hope NZCPA keep NZC honest and work to get as many of the missing pieces of the puzzle back in place:

- Restore Plunket Shield to 10 rounds
- NZ A series annually
- Restore Provincial A competition in some form
- Restore NZ U19 programme in ICC U19 world cup fallow years, including U19 tests.

 

[NZTailender]

What about have 2 FC games scheduled, and the other two teams play 2-3 List A games against one another for part of the season? Theoretically you can knock out all the List A **** in 5 or so weeks, and still be halfway through the FC stuff. May even save a bit on travel expenses by having back to back games at the same city and venue.

So 2 FC games in a row, then 2-3 List A games, then repeat?

 

[Athlai]

So 2 FC games in a row, then 2-3 List A games, then repeat?

Yeah pretty much, maybe it'd be 2 teams play FC and the other 4 play List A though.


Schedule for Team 1

FC Match vs Team 2
List A Series vs. Team 3
List A series vs. Team 4
FC Match vs. Team 3
List A series vs. Team 5
List A Series vs. Team 6
FC Match vs. Team 4
List A Series vs. Team 2
Semi Finals/Finals week

When setting it out like that I'd expect it to take 6-8 weeks.

 

[NZTailender]

So one team would play both their OD matches against the other team either away/home only?

 

[Athlai]

So one team would play both their OD matches against the other team either away/home only?

Yep, 3 home series, 2 away series one year, 2 home series, 3 away series another.

 

[jcas0167]

With the absolute dearth of actual domestic cricket during the domestic cricket season. I’m following the U17s.

Young fella by the name of Sam Ferguson has scored a 200 and a 100 for CD in first 4 games. (I see he is out cheap today)

God bless the provincial newspapers, long may they continue.

Courtesy of the Wanganui Chronicle, lumped under the godawful NZHearld conglomerate website:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/wanganui-chronicle/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503426&objectid=12194331

Yes, some big hundreds. Robbie Kerr's nephew Micah Conroy also scored 140 and Caleb Montague hit 166 for Wellington. Chris Pringle's son Tim has scored an 80 and 90 odd batting 3 for ND.

 

[NZTailender]

Yep, 3 home series, 2 away series one year, 2 home series, 3 away series another.

not on board with that tbh

 

[Immenso]

From the 2nd of Jan to the 14th of Feb, 40 days, there are 21 games of T20 cricket goin on in NZ Domestics.

21 games between 6 teams, 7 games each in 40 days.

For each team that's an average 1 game of 40 over cricket every 5.7 days. During the height of the summer.

Christ, I'm bored.

 

[jcas0167]

Clarkson hitting Anderson over the stand. Changing of the guard moment.

Nethula is playing for ND now too!

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Conway with an excellent ton yesterday!

Ravindra finally made his super smash debut too ... didn’t get a bat, but came in when Otago were destroying the Wellington attack at 117/0 after 9 overs and took 3/32 from 4. Fantastic bowling debut!

Mystified as to why Woodcock is back in the side for van Beek though, he didn’t bat or bowl.

 

[Immenso]

WIth Ravindra making his T20 debut, My general thoughts on young players and T20.

T20 is a game for old batsmen, wrist spinners, darty finger spinners, and fast bowlers.

Batsmen who I think have a good chance of being 3 format players at a high level, I'm not a fan of them playing the Super Smash in their teen years. T20 batsmen need either power and/or 360 degree scoring options. Not many teens have that and in attempting to compromise they turn to ****.

I've seen Finnie time a cricket ball and he has no issues with his power even back in his teens. But being a good hitter plus a part-time spinner (the holy grail of the T20 pro) has seen him as a number 8 or 9 for Otago when his coach’s ambitions should have been so much higher for him, but it required a bit of patience.

I don't think Ravindra should play much T20 this year and probably next year. Just wait for the power or 360 degrees to form at a natural maturing pace. Let him nail down his read and butter. Like Finnie he could play and bat at 8 because of his bowling, but thank God Edgar has resisted this for most of the season.

Finn Allen looks like he should be a natural in the white ball stuff, but will be good enough to play all 3 formats. With the wealth of options Auckland have I'd hold him back in the super smash.

Glenn Phillips: I'm not opposed to his early white ball exposure for Auckland. I think he'll end up a white ball specialist.

Young batting all-rounders like Clarkson and Leopard, I'm also not opposed to their early T20 exposure. Actually, I'm surprised at Leopard's lack of chances. These guys look like white ball players going forward (Clarkson definitely due to his injury limitations), although Leopard may still have broader ambitions.

Young wrist spinners: get them in there.

Young finger spinners: Hmmmm, probably no harm. But let Nick Beard serve as a cautioning reminder.

Young scatterball fast bowlers (like Sears). Yep, get them in there, Unpredictability is ok in T20. Control can be developed as they mature and in the mean timer no harm is done as they learn on the job.

Young swing bowlers: Like the potential 3 form batsmen these I think are vulnerable. I think Southee and Duffy were not helped. I'd like to wrap Nathan Smith up in cotton wool if Otago had the depth and if the T20 comp was a month shorter. Nuttall (who I rate the most promising) seemed to successfully transform from swing to bouncy/pace bowler. Although his back is stuffed? however he's having an absolute nightmare season this year.


or maybe all the above is a waste of words, and the real problem was with the coaching at Otago (Duffy, Beard, Finnie)

 

[Hicheal Michael]

Is it just me, or are very few Wellington games on tv?