***Official*** IPL 2024

[Socerer 01]

After being rubbish before and after

He’s made a lengthy international career out of a couple of performances

he’s **** in odis but he’s been alright in t20s

arguably better than alright, he’s got a healthy strike rate while batting in his second preferred position for most of his t20 career for Australia and has been a below average to average seamer

 

[centurymaker]

Probable Squad-

Rohit
Jaiswal
Kohli
Sky
Samson / Pant
Dube / Rinku
Pandya
Jadeja / Axar
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep / Siraj

Unfortunately Jadeja isn't good enough with the bat for T20s and Pandya is seriously out of form and so are Siraj and Arshdeep. Let's not even mention the expected SR of some of these batters. So, overall, things are not looking good for India.

 

[Socerer 01]

Probable Squad-

Rohit
Jaiswal
Kohli
Sky
Samson / Pant
Dube / Rinku
Pandya
Jadeja / Axar
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep / Siraj

Unfortunately Jadeja isn't good enough with the bat for T20s and Pandya is seriously out of form and so are Siraj and Arshdeep. Let's not even mention the expected SR of some of these batters. So, overall, things are not looking good for India.

India on their way to another loss on the back of only 5 bowling options

 

[Himannv]

Probable Squad-

Rohit
Jaiswal
Kohli
Sky
Samson / Pant
Dube / Rinku
Pandya
Jadeja / Axar
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep / Siraj

Unfortunately Jadeja isn't good enough with the bat for T20s and Pandya is seriously out of form and so are Siraj and Arshdeep. Let's not even mention the expected SR of some of these batters. So, overall, things are not looking good for India.

It feels like there's no major concern with the bat. You have the likes of Abhishek, Parag, Karthik, and Gaikwad as well who have been very good to varying degrees.

The bowling is where you might have a problem. Your best bowlers are probably Bumrah, Kuldeep, Chahal, Arshdeep, and Axar, but you're lacking a 6th bowler and there are too many spinners so you may need Pandya who has been poor by his standards. Harshal Patel an option perhaps? Natarajan?

 

[Socerer 01]

It feels like there's no major concern with the bat. You have the likes of Abhishek, Parag, Karthik, and Gaikwad as well who have been very good to varying degrees.

The bowling is where you might have a problem. Your best bowlers are probably Bumrah, Kuldeep, Chahal, Arshdeep, and Axar, but you're lacking a 6th bowler and there are too many spinners so you may need Pandya who has been poor by his standards. Harshal Patel an option perhaps? Natarajan?

Indian fans and selectors are obsessed with having only 5 bowling options because they think the sixth batsman is making a bigger difference compared to the 6th bowling option

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

It feels like there's no major concern with the bat. You have the likes of Abhishek, Parag, Karthik, and Gaikwad as well who have been very good to varying degrees.

The bowling is where you might have a problem. Your best bowlers are probably Bumrah, Kuldeep, Chahal, Arshdeep, and Axar, but you're lacking a 6th bowler and there are too many spinners so you may need Pandya who has been poor by his standards. Harshal Patel an option perhaps? Natarajan?

Harshal seems a good option given the slow pitches there.

 

[centurymaker]

India had 6 proper bowling options in the previous T20 WC and it didn't go well either.

ENG vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Semi-Final at Adelaide, November 10, 2022

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get England vs India 2nd Semi-Final, cricket scorecard, ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2022/23 dated November 10, 2022.

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India need to bat deep and thereby convince batsmen at the top to bat really aggressively to rack up 200+ totals.

 

[honestbharani]

India had 6 proper bowling options in the previous T20 WC and it didn't go well either.

ENG vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Semi-Final at Adelaide, November 10, 2022

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get England vs India 2nd Semi-Final, cricket scorecard, ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2022/23 dated November 10, 2022.

www.espncricinfo.com

India need to bat deep and thereby convince batsmen at the top to bat really aggressively to rack up 200+ totals.

The scary part is it seems we are going to have a very similar side with even less depth with both bat and ball.

Rohit
Jaiswal
Virat
SKY
Pant
Hardik
Jaddu
*no idea*
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Give me Shivam Dube. I don't know how he'll fit into the team, but he makes every other team that goes to the WC.

 

[centurymaker]

The scary part is it seems we are going to have a very similar side with even less depth with both bat and ball.

Rohit
Jaiswal
Virat
SKY
Pant
Hardik
Jaddu
*no idea*
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep

Yeah I don't see India winning because they are a tier below the top sides at the moment. At best the 4th best side behind Aus, Eng & SA. Plus can also be beaten by any of NZ, WI or Pak.

They might have to go with a 6 proper batsmen + 5 proper bowlers strategy like in the ODI WC - by omitting Pandya. And Dube could be the 6th bowling option to bowl 1-2 overs. But still the batting depth would be lacking either way as Jadeja would come no.7 with nobody behind him..

 

[centurymaker]

Tbh Pandya has become a liability with both bat & ball and given his mental condition & question marks over his fitness, it might be best to leave him out of the squad imo.

At least with 6 proper batsmen, India is able to play all the big hitters like sky, rinku and dube.

Rohit
Kohli
Keeper
Sky
Dube
Rinku
Jadeja/Axar
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep
*Another bowler*

 

[Nintendo]

I really don't like mcgurk opening. The reinforced seem on the white ball means you get a bit more swing early. Most t20 openers have adapted to this, but mcgurk's whole "I'm gonna swing at everything" mode really isn't suited to those first ~2 overs. DC would be much better having somone else with shaw and letting mcgurk walk in at 3.

 

[Socerer 01]

India had 6 proper bowling options in the previous T20 WC and it didn't go well either.

ENG vs IND Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Semi-Final at Adelaide, November 10, 2022

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get England vs India 2nd Semi-Final, cricket scorecard, ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2022/23 dated November 10, 2022.

www.espncricinfo.com

India need to bat deep and thereby convince batsmen at the top to bat really aggressively to rack up 200+ totals.

semi finals was par for that team

literally no other team had just 5 bowling options there did they??

they lost that semi final anyway because the bowling was ****, you arent defending 250 if your bowlers cant take 1 wicket

 

[Socerer 01]

Tbh Pandya has become a liability with both bat & ball and given his mental condition & question marks over his fitness, it might be best to leave him out of the squad imo.

At least with 6 proper batsmen, India is able to play all the big hitters like sky, rinku and dube.

Rohit
Kohli
Keeper
Sky
Dube
Rinku
Jadeja/Axar
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Arshdeep
*Another bowler*

this is better at least Dube can bowl to be the 6th option

 

[Nintendo]

Worst case india have a million batting options and plenty of backup, and 3 solid bowlers bare minimum (Bumrah, Kuldeep, arshdeep). Issues are that 1.there 2 best t20 allrounders are both horribly out of form (Jadeja and hardik) and the backups are only performing in 1 skill RN (Axar and Dubey) and 2.How they fit a keeper into the side.

1.Rohit/Gill
2.Jaiswal/Gill
3.Kohli/Samson
4.Sky/Dubey
5.Rinku/Dubey
6.
7.
8.
9.Bumrah
10.Kuldeep
11.Arshdeep

Is a really solid core to build around. Most teams would kill to have gill/samson/Dubey in the first 11 and there india's backups. I just don't know how you fill out that 6-8.

 

[Niall]

Worst case india have a million batting options and plenty of backup, and 3 solid bowlers bare minimum (Bumrah, Kuldeep, arshdeep). Issues are that 1.there 2 best t20 allrounders are both horribly out of form (Jadeja and hardik) and the backups are only performing in 1 skill RN (Axar and Dubey) and 2.How they fit a keeper into the side.

1.Rohit/Gill
2.Jaiswal/Gill
3.Kohli/Samson
4.Sky/Dubey
5.Rinku/Dubey
6.
7.
8.
9.Bumrah
10.Kuldeep
11.Arshdeep

Is a really solid core to build around. Most teams would kill to have gill/samson/Dubey in the first 11 and there india's backups. I just don't know how you fill out that 6-8.

I'd like to get Rinku and Dube in but don't think they will sadly.
So for me considering Kohli and Rohit are untouchable ...



Rohit
Kohli
Yadav
Keeper ...Samson ideally but it will be Pant.
Dube
Rinku
all rounder ...suppose its got to be Jadeja or Pandya sadly.

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4 Bowlers,,,Bumrah and Kuldeep the only cert's then not sure.


That would mean no Jaiswal, but if Kohli and Rohit must play then that may have to do.

I'd rather a better 6th bowling option than Dube but no obvious solutions.

Its not helped whatsoever that Pandya has looked so basic in the IPL unfortunately.

 

[Niall]

Probably should not overthink the 6th bowling choice. Looking at the last 4 world cups and mainly the finals, bar 2014 none of the 6th bowling options were anything special, so Dube if brought on at right time you can probably get an over or two from.



2014 Sri Lanka won with 5 bowlers bowled out although tbf they did have Thisara and Dilshan as options but were not needed. India tbf were stacked with Yuvi, Raina, Ashwin, Jadeja, Mishra, Bhuvi and Mohit but on reflection after limping to a nothing score of 130 which Lanka breezed it didn't do them any good.

2016 ..Darren Sammy and Joe Root and both only bowled an over each.

2020...Aka the chase and win world cup....Marsh had one over while NZ had James Neesham and both only bowled one over each.

2022 Livingstone and Ahmed...both only bowled an over and even then Pakistan were messed up by Afridi getting injured.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Pant's looked great tonight. Can't wait to see him back in Tests.

 

[Arachnodouche]

Physicality's the word you're looking for Manjrekar you worthless hack

 

[honestbharani]

Worst case india have a million batting options and plenty of backup, and 3 solid bowlers bare minimum (Bumrah, Kuldeep, arshdeep). Issues are that 1.there 2 best t20 allrounders are both horribly out of form (Jadeja and hardik) and the backups are only performing in 1 skill RN (Axar and Dubey) and 2.How they fit a keeper into the side.

1.Rohit/Gill
2.Jaiswal/Gill
3.Kohli/Samson
4.Sky/Dubey
5.Rinku/Dubey
6.
7.
8.
9.Bumrah
10.Kuldeep
11.Arshdeep

Is a really solid core to build around. Most teams would kill to have gill/samson/Dubey in the first 11 and there india's backups. I just don't know how you fill out that 6-8.

That has been our problem in white ball cricket from about 2013. Not having world class allrounders is one thing, but we have not even had bowlers who can bat and batters who can bowl and it has cost us multiple shots at white ball trophies. Its not choking or all that crap, its simply lack of depth past the specialists with both bat and ball. All champion sides have had that and for the last 10 years or so, we have not.