Not really. Except for the Ban-WI match most of the teams have struggled to chase in high score matches (and here we were trying to gun down the record chase in WC)Think today is the ultimate proof that India for the rest of the world cup if they win the toss should never elect to chase,,,and obviously if you win the toss against them make them chase
Dhawan though what a ****ing huge loss he is,,,today was ideal for him.
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Official Indian Fans Hugbox Thread
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cnerd123
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See the thing is India can still win this WC
Last two group stage games should be a cakewalk. Then it's just the two KO games. In both games, if our bowling shows up, we only need about 250-280 with the bat, and that's been pretty easy for this lineup despite all it's flaws.
Chahal has had one bad game. He's bowled well so far as has Kuldeep. I can see the argument for getting Jaddu in the XI, but I don't want to go down the 'pick a bowler for his batting' route and Jaddu is already basically fielding all 50 overs anyways.
Pant/MSD as opener is interesting but they just don't have the game to survive the Aus/Eng/Pak/NZ new ball attacks. Lokesh, for his flaws, has some sort of proven track record, and I reckon we can rely on him to get us some sort of start more often than not. The 9 ball duck was his first low score of this WC, his next lowest score with a dismissal is 26 off 42. Pant and MSD are both wayyy too prone to nicking off early Vs a swinging ball.
The only change I would consider is Karthik for Kedar. If Jadhav isn't going to bowl, we may as well leave him out for a batsman who is more dynamic, probably in better touch, and who is also a much better fielder.
Last two group stage games should be a cakewalk. Then it's just the two KO games. In both games, if our bowling shows up, we only need about 250-280 with the bat, and that's been pretty easy for this lineup despite all it's flaws.
Chahal has had one bad game. He's bowled well so far as has Kuldeep. I can see the argument for getting Jaddu in the XI, but I don't want to go down the 'pick a bowler for his batting' route and Jaddu is already basically fielding all 50 overs anyways.
Pant/MSD as opener is interesting but they just don't have the game to survive the Aus/Eng/Pak/NZ new ball attacks. Lokesh, for his flaws, has some sort of proven track record, and I reckon we can rely on him to get us some sort of start more often than not. The 9 ball duck was his first low score of this WC, his next lowest score with a dismissal is 26 off 42. Pant and MSD are both wayyy too prone to nicking off early Vs a swinging ball.
The only change I would consider is Karthik for Kedar. If Jadhav isn't going to bowl, we may as well leave him out for a batsman who is more dynamic, probably in better touch, and who is also a much better fielder.
ankitj
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The answer for #4 is Kedar Jadhav. He is not a Pandya clone who should be used for quick fire 40s. He once scored a 76 ball 120 to chase down 250 while batting with Kohli and outshining him. Averages 43 with a SR of 100+. Give the guy his due. Save him from influence of Dhoni playing at other end.
cnerd123
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Jadhav has a record behind him and deserves to be here but hasn't looked all that good so far. The Afghanistan 50 was vital TBF.
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I don't think many people realise he's also 34 years old. I think he's been decent overall since he's come into the team but if he doesn't do better in the remaining games this wc, the correct decision would be to move on and give a younger batsman a chance.
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Jadhav and Dhoni still have their uses if we find ourselves at, say, 3/80 chasing around 240. The problem with having both of them in the lineup is that a middle order batsman is supposed to be adaptable and versatile, which they aren't at all. Jadhav seems to have very few shots as well, hardly any scoring options other than the dab down to third man. What exactly are his strengths as a batsman?
I get that Dhoni sucks right now but if you throw in his keeping and experience, he'll always bring more to the table than Jadhav. He's still better than most of the other keeper-batsmen in the competition.
I get that Dhoni sucks right now but if you throw in his keeping and experience, he'll always bring more to the table than Jadhav. He's still better than most of the other keeper-batsmen in the competition.
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Let's look at the other keeper batsmen for the sake of comparison:
Australia - selected Carey who no one had heard of before the tournament, turned out to be an inspired pick. Wankers.
England - Buttler. Dhoni's a better keeper, especially to spin. Let's not talk about the batting lol
New Zealand - Latham, having a nightmare run
Pakistan - Sarfraz, lol I'd probably pick a 70 year old Dhoni over him
WI - Hope, hasn't had a great tournament, not a good keeper either
Bangladesh - Mushfiqur is genuinely a better option ATM, we might get some cool dance moves as well as a bonus
South Africa - De Kock's better but has had a poor tournament
Sri Lanka - they have that guy who comes in and blasts away for a bit at the top of the order, I like him
Afghanistan - n00b standing in after Fatty got injured
Maybe Pant could have done the job but we'll never know. As of now, he'd still be much worse keeping to spin. The only way to have averted the Dhoni situation is to have tried Pant as first choice ODI keeper at least a year back to see whether he was up to it.
Australia - selected Carey who no one had heard of before the tournament, turned out to be an inspired pick. Wankers.
England - Buttler. Dhoni's a better keeper, especially to spin. Let's not talk about the batting lol
New Zealand - Latham, having a nightmare run
Pakistan - Sarfraz, lol I'd probably pick a 70 year old Dhoni over him
WI - Hope, hasn't had a great tournament, not a good keeper either
Bangladesh - Mushfiqur is genuinely a better option ATM, we might get some cool dance moves as well as a bonus
South Africa - De Kock's better but has had a poor tournament
Sri Lanka - they have that guy who comes in and blasts away for a bit at the top of the order, I like him
Afghanistan - n00b standing in after Fatty got injured
Maybe Pant could have done the job but we'll never know. As of now, he'd still be much worse keeping to spin. The only way to have averted the Dhoni situation is to have tried Pant as first choice ODI keeper at least a year back to see whether he was up to it.
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Shankar is out of the world cup and agarwal is in. Bit of a cluster**** tbh.
I'd slot agarwal in to open with rohit and just tell him to play his shots freely. Push Rahul down to 4 in place of pant and see how it goes.
I'd slot agarwal in to open with rohit and just tell him to play his shots freely. Push Rahul down to 4 in place of pant and see how it goes.
ankitj
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Yes. Shami has also not proven to be a good death bowler, all the wickets notwithstanding.
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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...hankar-world-cup-toe-injury-agarwal-called-up
Apparently Shankar sustained a toe injury in the nets. Bumrah doing the Lord's work.
Apparently Shankar sustained a toe injury in the nets. Bumrah doing the Lord's work.
harsh.ag
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That is a good replacement. He is a reliable batsman. Should open. KL back to 4.