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*Official* - India in West Indies

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Time for Sarwan and Chanderpaul to shine

It'd be nice if they didn't let their bowlers down for once
Maybe it has got something to do with the pitches too.. At times, even 200 is plenty in few pitches and in those cases, it is not always like "the bowlers did their job". Even getting the opposition out for <150 can be the bowlers' job in certain pitches...


Not saying this pitch is like that but it is way too generic to keep stating bowlers did their job when it is obvious it is tough to score runs out there and India still managed 250+ or 200+...
 

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Would have been nice for VVS to get a ton yesterday.. he has played so many lovely little innings in the 70-90 range but they tend to get remembered just a bit more if you reach 3 figures. :(
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Maybe it has got something to do with the pitches too.. At times, even 200 is plenty in few pitches and in those cases, it is not always like "the bowlers did their job". Even getting the opposition out for <150 can be the bowlers' job in certain pitches...


Not saying this pitch is like that but it is way too generic to keep stating bowlers did their job when it is obvious it is tough to score runs out there and India still managed 250+ or 200+...
The pitch isn't a minefield though. Sure, it's got a bit of extra bounce but as Raina and Laxman showed, there's runs to be had.
 

Bun

Banned
The pitch isn't a minefield though. Sure, it's got a bit of extra bounce but as Raina and Laxman showed, there's runs to be had.
it doesn't have unpredictable bounce.

good bowling from the pacers there. I think somehow p kumar is better with the red ball than the white one.

meanwhile ishant keeps on lowering his bowling avg to acceptable limits. a few good series should see it around the thirty mark which I think is where he should belong.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
It's amazing how many times Raina has delivered under pressure in his very short test career. Absolutely staggering people want him dropped. Him averaging 40 doesn't do justice to the circumstances he's scored runs in, IMO. WAG

Praveen to get a 5-fer to maintain his standards so far of averaging 13. :p

Can't watch most of the cricket today as I've to catch a flight at 5 in the morning to Jodhpur for college.
 

Stapel

International Regular
I really would like to see the Windies push the Indian on the back foot. You'ld expect Sarwan, Chanders and Samuels to contribute a bit with the bat....
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
The pitch isn't a minefield though. Sure, it's got a bit of extra bounce but as Raina and Laxman showed, there's runs to be had.
The batting from both sides hasn't been great.

If india had had their full strength batting line-up, they would've been something like 300 runs for the loss of 5/6 wickets by the end of the day- Mukund, Vijay, Kohli have done nothing with the bat all series...
 

nsniks

State Vice-Captain
Suresh Raina has been fined 25% of his match fee for his reaction after being given out and Daryl Harper has withdrawn from the third test "in wake of some unfair criticism"

I dont think criticism of umpiring in the first test was unfair.
 

shivfan

Banned
Suresh Raina has been fined 25% of his match fee for his reaction after being given out and Daryl Harper has withdrawn from the third test "in wake of some unfair criticism"

I dont think criticism of umpiring in the first test was unfair.
It wouldn't have been necessary, if UDRS had been used....

In the Windies home series against Pakistan, Asoka was umpiring, but because UDRS was used, the damage he did was minimal. Refusal to use UDRS means that there's a lot of pressure on the umpires, and very few of them can stand up to the scrutiny of constant TV replays.

Also, have you noticed how many more problems with dissent there are in this series? The lack of UDRS means that batsmen no longer have that outlet to challenge what they feel are bad decisions, so hence resorting to dissent....
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Wouldn't have overturned with the referral too as it was not conclusive by any means.

would have only added to his frustrations:p.
 

Bun

Banned
Hey Suresh, refer it.
8-)

it's laughable someone gets docked their match fee for lingering at the crease for 5 seconds, when someone like broad gets away with his antics and chiding and moaning and rubbish appealing.... I mean the guy hasn't even cautioned once.

apparently having someone known at the top helps.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Suresh Raina has been fined 25% of his match fee for his reaction after being given out and Daryl Harper has withdrawn from the third test "in wake of some unfair criticism"

I dont think criticism of umpiring in the first test was unfair.
Chris Broad was the match referee as was pointed out yesterday ,so was expected pretty much .
Posted it yesterday that there was no way he was going to get a Indian player get away with that.

Raina did hardly anything tbf ,compared to what his son gets away with but Ahh!! Well.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
It wouldn't have been necessary, if UDRS had been used....

In the Windies home series against Pakistan, Asoka was umpiring, but because UDRS was used, the damage he did was minimal. Refusal to use UDRS means that there's a lot of pressure on the umpires, and very few of them can stand up to the scrutiny of constant TV replays.

Also, have you noticed how many more problems with dissent there are in this series? The lack of UDRS means that batsmen no longer have that outlet to challenge what they feel are bad decisions, so hence resorting to dissent....
How many of those decisions would have been overturned conclusively by the UDRS though?

Harper was going off the Elite Panel in any case after this match ,so a better umpire will take his place.

Was a likeable character though,have to say.
 

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