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***Official*** India in West Indies
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Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
The damn page isn't opening for me. Anyways If it is about crowd behavior then no doubt it should improve. But it is so ironic that it is coming out of CricInfo and Mr. Premchandran, they themselves can do little better by being little more responsible as journalists by not running to find 'a story'.
sideshowtim
Banned
Cricbuzz commentators are rididuclously bias against the Aussies.
adharcric
International Coach
For me, Irfan Pathan, Sreesanth and Munaf Patel are the "regulars".
RP Singh is a borderline regular in both forms and Ajit Agarkar only in ODIs.
Now, getting to your question. I won't consider Zaheer, Nehra or Balaji as "regulars" until they get picked for the national team and start performing consistently for India.
To be considered for selection in the first place, here's what I want:
1) top-class fitness and fielding
2) heaps of wickets in domestic/county cricket on a regular basis
3) >= 135 kph with good accuracy (at least zaheer & nehra)
RP Singh is a borderline regular in both forms and Ajit Agarkar only in ODIs.
Now, getting to your question. I won't consider Zaheer, Nehra or Balaji as "regulars" until they get picked for the national team and start performing consistently for India.
To be considered for selection in the first place, here's what I want:
1) top-class fitness and fielding
2) heaps of wickets in domestic/county cricket on a regular basis
3) >= 135 kph with good accuracy (at least zaheer & nehra)
rp singh from what i have seen seems to be a really bright prospect....he is really young and hopefully will come back strongly and not fade away like so many others....we need competition for these slots otherwise these youngsters will get complacent and start taking their places for granted....adharcric said:
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
He reminds of me Ntini, the way he approaches the game. His enthusiasm certainly does resemble Ntini's.
alternative
Cricket Web Content Updater
Yes Definitely SreeSanth is good.. he always gives it his best.. he seems to be our version of the Workhorse if i may call him that..
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
alternative said:
Pathan seems to be able to bowl a lot more overs than Sreesanth or anyone else, so probably that mantle should go to him. In one dayers, his bowling is more than fine but in tests he probably needs to add about 5mph of pace, not too much, and he can be equally effective I think.
adharcric
International Coach
Pathan is definitely effective, but I would still call Sreesanth the workhorse. Pathan's dip in pace in test cricket can perhaps be attributed to his want to preserve energy for extended spells, meaning that he doesn't quite have what it takes to go for long "quality" spells (pace-wise). Sreesanth, on the other hand, tirelessly gives his top stuff as long as he's bowling.silentstriker said:
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
FRONTLINE: Irfan, Sreesanth, RP Singh (ODI's only), Munaf/JP Yadav, SS Paul/Balaji/Gagandeep (Tests only)
RESERVE: VR Singh, Joginder, Pravin Kumar, Abid Nabi
Let's watch Zaheer perform.....if he keeps getting wickets in bucketfuls, he may return to the team sooner than later.
RESERVE: VR Singh, Joginder, Pravin Kumar, Abid Nabi
Let's watch Zaheer perform.....if he keeps getting wickets in bucketfuls, he may return to the team sooner than later.
you don't necessarily need sheer pace all the time to pick wickets, but you do need other attributes(not saying you don't need these if you have pace just that they become even more important) if you don't have the shock value of pace like accuracy, variations like cut, reverse swing, conventional swing, change of pace, the odd effort ball etc etc ....attributes that a lot of great bowlers had who were not really express pace like akram, mcgrath, hadlee etc etc had....pathan while he is showing that he can do it for 10 overs in one dayers still hasn't really shown himself to be test class bowler against good batting lineups apart from some brief bursts here and there....chappell seems to think he has loads of talent as a bowler...maybe he does....for india's sake, it's time he channels it to test cricket though....adharcric said:
adharcric
International Coach
Right on Arjun, but please don't put Munaf Patel and JP Yadav together.
I know you like Yadav but he doesn't have a realistic chance of returning as he's a penetrative domestic bowler but I'm questioning his impact at the international level, plus he's already 30+.
I know you like Yadav but he doesn't have a realistic chance of returning as he's a penetrative domestic bowler but I'm questioning his impact at the international level, plus he's already 30+.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Why not? Munaf can score runs, but he's not putting that to much use now, and won't get a chance. In fact, he's replacing JP Yadav, a practising all-rounder, (Zaheer was a stop-gap pick) in the current ODI squad. Moreover—adharcric said:
- Munaf struggles with the new ball, while Yadav can use it well.
- Munaf bowls way too many no-balls and wides, which can weaken the bowling side.
- Munaf has fielding issues.
- Yadav can also score runs, so a fifth bowler can make the side. The Indians have often struggled with four bowlers.
- Next time someone brings up the age factor, I can only say– look at Parthiv Patel. That young, promising wicketkeeper batsman couldn't hit a six! Yadav, on the other hand, is seasoned and ready for India.