***Official*** India in Pakistan

[luckyeddie]

Why should we take a series performance. In his career Prabhakar averaged 37 as a bowler. Do you have an excuse for even that?

Prabhakar had little opportunity to gorge on Zimbabwean rabbits and Bangladesh weren't yet playing test cricket.

 

[marc71178]

Why should we take a series performance. In his career Prabhakar averaged 37 as a bowler. Do you have an excuse for even that?

Well you used a single innings to have a go at him...

 

[Pratters]

Prabhakar had little opportunity to gorge on Zimbabwean rabbits and Bangladesh weren't yet playing test cricket.

I know Pathan has superb stats against minnows. Remove those and I doubt if Pathan would average as poorly as 37. (The first two tests would have been a dampener on the average for all bowlers - so average before the current series or after the current match should be taken into account for fairness.

 

[Pratters]

Well you used a single innings to have a go at him...

I quoted the career stats as well. The single inning was to highlight him.

Even you would agree a single performance isn't a fair measure. So we agree there. Why you needed to comment here I do not know though.

 

[marc71178]

Why you needed to comment here I do not know though.

You attack someone else for using a series as a benchmark when you yourself has used a single innings.

I'm highlighting the inconsistencies.

 

[Pratters]

You attack someone else for using a series as a benchmark when you yourself has used a single innings.

I'm highlighting the inconsistencies.

I am not using a single inning. I am using the career performance. Even in my post highlighting the single performance I mentioned the average of 37 quite clearly.

I have already said the same in the previous comment. Is it really that difficult to understand or are you trying to be ignorant purposefully to attack me?

It is clearly the second case the way I see it.

 

[Beleg]

Butt and Farhat are treating us to some sumptuous strokes. Perhaps they are causing some tempers to flare up?

 

[godofcricket]

The way Farhat is playing seems he is the most suitable player at that spot currently, i have serious doubt if they will bring back malik for tests.

 

[Tony Blade]

A draw is out of the question, right?

 

[Deja moo]

A draw is out of the question, right?

You think ?

 

[Nate]

Pretty insane match this. Asif doing reeeeeallly well.

And now the Pakistani openers run riot.

 

[Deja moo]

Tadaa...

Salman Butt lbw b Sourav Ganguly

The man can bowl.

 

[Arjun]

Arjun, this is a real strange post by you

You are normally a person who likes to see big hitting and want players who can play the big shots more to get a place into this Indian team and yet when we have one in Dhoni, you do not want to have his batting, especially his big hitting and would want him as a super-sub. You always want to see the runs coming in big shots, yet here you do not want players who can play those big shots like Dhoni. Its a real strange idea to have Dhoni in as a super-sub. I would go in with Munaf Patel as a super-sub in these matches as -

If we bat first - Its simple, we sub Munaf after we finish our batting.
If we bowl first - If one of our bowlers has an off day, he can be super-subbed by Munaf. Also, he can be used as a big-hitter lower down the order if required when the required run-rate will be on the rise by super-subbing him with a defensive tailender. He can play those big shots then.

Uhh.....hang on.......I am suggesting they use Dhoni's batting and Ratra's keeping. By these plans, Dhoni stays in the side a lot longer. If they're lucky, Ratra or any other keeper can sneak in. That may be a better option than replacing a batsman with a bowler, since you don't know whether that will work out.

Munaf shouldn't be a stupid-sub. Rather, he should form the first XI. His batting will come VERY useful for the side, so you're not using him fully if you have hi on the bench when the team is batting. Someone like RP Singh or VR Singh (not an all-rounder by any means) would be a better choice for that position, but the stupid-sub rule is most effective when used least.

 

[Arjun]

What are your comments on the Indian ODI side? Zaheer for JP Yadav was a strange move, since Zaheer hasn't done much of note so far in the Test series, and he's not as good a batsman or fielder as JP Yadav. He'd be a better replacement for Agarkar, though. It's a good combination they've got as far as batting is concerned, and the bowling is also not too bad, except for Agarkar and Karthik returning to the team yet again. There are a few bowlers in India who can add more value to the team than these two and may be unlucky to miss out. A lot will depend on how Sreesanth and RP Singh perform, since one's fast and the other can get movement off the pitch. Not to mention, Zaheer must return to bowling at full pace– he's been his best that way. And of course, he has to do a lot more than just tap fence-bound balls with his feet.

 

[Arjun]

Lack of pace in this Indian attack is worrying. The fastest so far was 135, and on an average, it was in the 120's. RP Singh just bowled an over where the pace was just 120-odd from ball one to six. Zaheer has tried hard, but only reached 136 and he's been bowling on the pads or outside off a little too often. As for Irfan, his pace is a screaming case for JP Yadav's Test debut.

 

[Mecnun]

Good solid start from Pak. Bowling wise I was disappointed they did not get them earlier but Indians batted well to even out the 1st innings honours. If Pak can get a lead of 320-350 it would be a hell of a match and will test the famed Indian batting line up but first thing first Pak need to bat sensibly and score some runs.

 

[Sanz]

Why should we take a series performance. In his career Prabhakar averaged 37 as a bowler. Do you have an excuse for even that?

Did you even check the links ?? Prabhakar took two fifers in the series. How much Pathan averages against Pakistan in Pakistan ??

 

[Jono]

God damn it.

Early strikes needed tomorrow

On the positive side, Pathan scores more than Tendulkar, Sehwag and Dravid combined (well its not really a positive, but damn it it shows he can bat). His test and ODI averages with the bat over the past 8 and 20 matches respectively must be pretty good.

 

[Sanz]

I know Pathan has superb stats against minnows. Remove those and I doubt if Pathan would average as poorly as 37. (The first two tests would have been a dampener on the average for all bowlers - so average before the current series or after the current match should be taken into account for fairness.

http://statserver.cricket.org/guru?...edhigh=;csearch=;submit=1;.cgifields=viewtype

Filter :- Filter: against all except Bangladesh, in all except Zimbabwe.

Mat O R W BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10

16 549 1776 36 4/100 6/126 49.33 3.23 91.5 0 0


Before the start of this series, he was averaging 43 after the Faislabad test he is averaging 49.

I expect you to come up with some more useless explanation now.

 

[Deja moo]

God damn it.

Early strikes needed tomorrow

On the positive side, Pathan scores more than Tendulkar, Sehwag and Dravid combined (well its not really a positive, but damn it it shows he can bat). His test and ODI averages with the bat over the past 8 and 20 matches respectively must be pretty good.

IIRC, he averages 48 over the last 2 series (with the bat)