***Official*** India in Pakistan

[Salamuddin]

I don't understand the logic of the Hindustanis in picking a second keeper in Patel.

That's just plain dumb - ther'es only one first class match in addition to the tests.
If Dhoni were to get injured they could easily fly another guy over ....its not like he would have to cross the Atlantic.

They should have picked VRv Singh imo - the young quickie. According to Intikhab who coaches the Punjab Ranjit tropy team - he is very pacy.
Zaheer is useless - can't you Hindustanis find someone better ?

 

[Sudeep]

Zaheer is useless - can't you Hindustanis find someone better ?

He's done exceedingly well this domestic season.

 

[Sudeep]

I don't understand the logic of the Hindustanis in picking a second keeper in Patel.

That's just plain dumb - ther'es only one first class match in addition to the tests.
If Dhoni were to get injured they could easily fly another guy over ....its not like he would have to cross the Atlantic.

Must have missed this earlier.

The reason given for this is that there's a distinct possibility of Dhoni breaking down just on the morning of a match, with him taking quite a bit of batting load compared to other previous wicket-keepers.

I really don't know what to say about that.

 

[Run like Inzy]

What happened to Dinesh Karthik can't he bat better than Parthiv?

 

[SJS]

What happened to Dinesh Karthik can't he bat better than Parthiv?

NO. Parthiv is a better bat but his keeping was a problem. We have to see how far it is improved ?

 

[Run like Inzy]

So who is a better keeper Dhoni, Karthik or Parthiv?
Dhoni is obviously the best with the bat.

 

[magsi23]

i m pretty sure they showed the current series in the UK

No they didnt, only sky sports was showing in UK

 

[adharcric]

I don't understand the logic of the Hindustanis in picking a second keeper in Patel.

That's just plain dumb - ther'es only one first class match in addition to the tests.
If Dhoni were to get injured they could easily fly another guy over ....its not like he would have to cross the Atlantic.

They should have picked VRv Singh imo - the young quickie. According to Intikhab who coaches the Punjab Ranjit tropy team - he is very pacy.
Zaheer is useless - can't you Hindustanis find someone better ?

zaheer isn't useless, he can be a dangerous strike bowler when he's at his best. the guy who should've been axed for vrv singh is agarkar, who was absolutely useless in the series vs. sri lanka.

they could've picked vrv singh or mohammad kaif in place of parthiv patel perhaps, but patel shouldn't be given up on after just 1 stint.

 

[adharcric]

Play five bowlers– Kumble and Harbhajan are India's best bowlers, and they have to play together. Two seamers of the available quality are not enough to get the full 20 wickets. Irfan can score more than a few runs, along with Harbhajan– not to mention, Kumble's supposed to be rather good himself, with those six FC centuries. Zaheer and Irfan form a good new-ball combination, and RP Singh is good back-up. This time, it's a risk worth taking.

Here's the thing, I can see Zaheer being preferred to Agarkar, but I don't see RP Singh being played ahead of Agarkar. So even if we have a 3-pronged pace attack, I doubt we'll get to see the desirable irfan-zaheer-rp combination. Also, 5 bowlers will mean that Yuvraj has to sit, and I don't know if that's a good idea considering the contributions he's been making lately.

 

[SJS]

So who is a better keeper Dhoni, Karthik or Parthiv?
Dhoni is obviously the best with the bat.

I would have said Karthik, Dhoni and Parthiv in that order but its being claimed that Parthiv has improved and we need to see that.

 

[Arjun]

Here's the thing, I can see Zaheer being preferred to Agarkar, but I don't see RP Singh being played ahead of Agarkar. So even if we have a 3-pronged pace attack, I doubt we'll get to see the desirable irfan-zaheer-rp combination. Also, 5 bowlers will mean that Yuvraj has to sit, and I don't know if that's a good idea considering the contributions he's been making lately.

• They'll know that when Agarkar will struggle to take wickets for not too many. He may just be good enough as a fifth bowler, not a third seamer, but don't expect much.
• Why not try RP Singh out? He's more than a few inches taller than Agarkar and is decently fast. We can't expect much out of Agarkar anyway– you can't win Test matches with such bowlers, and we know it. RP Singh is an unknown quantity, and that may just be a surprise in the match.
• So what? Yuvraj hasn't scored a double century, has he? He hasn't looked like getting one. If he can play a long, decisive innings, then he can come in, but his bit contributions don't count, except in low-scoring matches. Taking 20 wickets is a bigger concern.

 

[Sanz]

Can someone tell me why is Murali Kartik n ot included in the team for Pakistan Tour ?? Not only that Kartik isn't offered a contract by BCCI for this coming season, Now had Ganguly been teh captain some members would have jumped on him for this( and I can quote many members on this forum on this) now can someone tell me why has Dravid and Co. lost faith in the best left arm spinner to grace world cricket since Bedi ?

Also, Parthiv's inclusion is laughable, even more laughable is the hypcritics reaction of some members..they want to see 'how far he has improved'. First of all what has Dinesh Karthik, who was our no. 1 WK 3 tests ago, done wrong and suddenly isn't even good enough to get into the final 15 ?

Once again Md. Kaif is out of the team without given a proper run in place of <guess who> and this <guess who> is in the team because of whom (Now that Dalmiya is not the incharge) ?

Also where is Dheeraj Jadhav who was in the team for Zimbabwe tour ? On what ground he has been dropped. What happened to Rao, Raina, SreeSanth etc ?

 

[adharcric]

Can someone tell me why is Murali Kartik n ot included in the team for Pakistan Tour ?? Not only that Kartik isn't offered a contract by BCCI for this coming season, Now had Ganguly been teh captain some members would have jumped on him for this( and I can quote many members on this forum on this) now can someone tell me why has Dravid and Co. lost faith in the best left arm spinner to grace world cricket since Bedi ?

Also, Parthiv's inclusion is laughable, even more laughable is the hypcritics reaction of some members..they want to see 'how far he has improved'. First of all what has Dinesh Karthik, who was our no. 1 WK 3 tests ago, done wrong and suddenly isn't even good enough to get into the final 15 ?

Once again Md. Kaif is out of the team without given a proper run in place of <guess who> and this <guess who> is in the team because of whom (Now that Dalmiya is not the incharge) ?

Also where is Dheeraj Jadhav who was in the team for Zimbabwe tour ? On what ground he has been dropped. What happened to Rao, Raina, SreeSanth etc ?

First of all, Murali Kartik can be deadly at times but is quite inconsistent, so don't go about praising him like hell. India won't play 3 spinners with the fast tracks that have been prepared in Pakistan, so it doesn't really matter if Kartik is there.

Now I know you can argue that if they're taking a backup keeper (Patel) for weak reasons, why not a backup spinner (Kartik)? I'm not sure, Dravid seemed to want a reserve keeper and more than anything, I'm glad to know that the selectors haven't given up on Patel after his first run as a teenager.

Again, Kaif isn't likely to crack the playing XI, so you might as well give Ganguly his final chance and resolve the controversy by letting him flourish or fail. Kaif is young and talented, he'll surely get chances in the future, no worries.

Jadhav hasn't been as great at the domestic level recently, while Wasim Jaffer has been making plenty of runs, including that double ton. I think Raina is more suited for one-day game right now, and Sreesanth hasn't done anything to warrant a test selection (wayward in the ODI series). Venugopal Rao is someone I can see doing well in the test arena, but again, there's no reason he would get the nod over Yuvraj, Ganguly and Kaif.

 

[vandemataram]

I'm happy with the selection of Indian team, the only guy that shouldn't have missed the bus happens to be A Nehra (who should have been in team in place of Waseem).

I think India will win both the test and ODI series.


Do anyone knows as to if India happen to beat Pak 3-0 in test series, then will they overtake Australia as number one team in ICC ranking??

 

[Nate]

I have no idea who will win. But go Shahid.

 

[adharcric]

I'm happy with the selection of Indian team, the only guy that shouldn't have missed the bus happens to be A Nehra (who should have been in team in place of Waseem).

I think India will win both the test and ODI series.


Do anyone knows as to if India happen to beat Pak 3-0 in test series, then will they overtake Australia as number one team in ICC ranking??

No they won't. India will have to beat both Pakistan and England comprehensively and hope for Australia's defeat to South Africa (which isn't happening) to get close.

 

[honestbharani]

No they won't. India will have to beat both Pakistan and England comprehensively and hope for Australia's defeat to South Africa (which isn't happening) to get close.

I am reasonably happy with the selections. Ganguly had to be there, given all the politics. And I am buying the selectors theories here of trying out younger players at home, but getting back the experienced ones for the tough tours away. Plus, I have to agree that Dinesh Kaarthick hasn't been in good form this season in the Ranji Trophy and it made sense to pick Parthiv if the selectors believe he is in better nick, even though I still think Kaarthick is easily the best keeper amongst the three that are being talked about. All the best to India.

 

[marc71178]

First of all what has Dinesh Karthik, who was our no. 1 WK 3 tests ago, done wrong and suddenly isn't even good enough to get into the final 15 ?

Batting apparently.

 

[Deja moo]

Batting apparently.

He played a better innings than Parthiv has ever managed, against Pakistan earlier this year. I dont think batting was the critereon. My guess is that Parthiv has managed to pull the right strings

 

[Run like Inzy]

Its nice to see Ganguly in the squad whos JP Singh? Whats he like? Haven't seen him play. All-rounder?