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***Official*** India in New Zealand 2013/14

KiWiNiNjA

International Coach
Junaid Khan
Mohd Irfan
Umar Gul

Those are all better than yours.
The last 2 years.
Code:
Junaid Khan (Pak)	11	21	441.3	85	1212	43	5/58	8/151	28.18	2.74	61.6	3	0
Mohammad Irfan (Pak)	4	6	118.4	15	389	10	3/44	4/86	38.90	3.27	71.2	0	0
Umar Gul (Pak)	        4	8	123.0	22	454	6	2/56	4/114	75.66	3.69	123.0	0	0
Code:
TA Boult (NZ)		18	32	618.5	144	1792	66	6/40	10/80	27.15	2.89	56.2	3	1
TG Southee (NZ)		13	24	504.3	110	1436	59	7/64	10/108	24.33	2.84	51.3	3	1
N Wagner (NZ)		12	22	433.0	84	1480	39	5/64	7/116	37.94	3.41	66.6	1	0
Yeah, you be cray cray.
 
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Daemon

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LOL?

Harris
Johnson
Siddle

Anderson
Broad
Stokes

Junaid Khan
Mohd Irfan
Umar Gul

Those are all better than yours.
Stokes isn't the 3rd seamer while Umar Gul and Irfan don't play for Pakistan anymore

Disagree with both you and blocky regardless of the lineups you've posted anw, Southee and Boult are quality. They're the fourth best new ball pair, arguably third. As an overall attack I think England edges them out.
 
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hendrix

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Specifically talking about the new ball, they're probably better than Australia and England. But once you factor in the whole attack they're quite far behind Australia, and probably about even with England, maybe slightly better.
 

ohnoitsyou

International Regular
Specifically talking about the new ball, they're probably better than Australia and England. But once you factor in the whole attack they're quite far behind Australia, and probably about even with England, maybe slightly better.
No way they are better than Harris and Johnson with the new ball.
 

ohnoitsyou

International Regular
Specifically talking about the new ball, they're probably better than Australia and England. But once you factor in the whole attack they're quite far behind Australia, and probably about even with England, maybe slightly better.
No way they are better than Harris and Johnson with the new ball.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
I reckon they're marginally superior to Johnson and Harris in NZ conditions with the new ball, possibly English too.

And more than marginally inferior in conditions everywhere else in the world.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
No way they are better than Harris and Johnson with the new ball.
I ran the stats a while ago and specifically in the first 20 overs with bowlers 1 and 2, I think it was pretty similar.

There's a huge, ridiculous difference with the old ball though. You've got to remember that England got off to starts of 2/82, 1/57, 1/90 etc etc.

Johnson and Harris aren't so reliant upon the new ball.
 

Flem274*

123/5
there are three posters who are about to start the most boring and eye bleeding "debate" in the thread yet if they're up for it.

call me when you're done in a week.
 

Zinzan

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Blocky, quit bringing us down by using 'Wagner' in an argument for our bowling attack. :dry: You'll have far more credibility if you just stick to the two openers Southee & Boult for now.
 

Zinzan

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Don't worry Flem, I'll just post Kohli pics in between their posts to make it tolerable.
You talking up Kohli has generally been a good sign for us on this tour to date, keep it up. Post a ton of pics as he's approaching his hundred plsee ;)
 

Flem274*

123/5
might be able to bring the roads we call pitches back to life.

we might struggle after lunch though if the **** turns all the water into wine during the drinks break.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
yeah the guy swings the ball through corners

Tim and Trent still get the new ball though and Jesus is just going to have to turn the other cheek and DEAL WITH IT
 

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