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Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Bose v/s Sreesanth: Feedback?

Bose is taller, more powerfully built, has been in action for a longer time and in the wickets. Not to mention, for an aggressive bowler (not so much fast), he's more a thinking bowler than a punching one. Sreesanth, on the other hand, is much faster, moves the ball better and forces the wickets rather than depend on conditions. The real advantage is that on a day that isn't good for the four-man bowling attack, he can save several runs and maybe even score a few in the tail. An overall consideration will put Sreesanth ahead, but on bowling alone, and on current form, Bose seems a better pick.
 

pasag

RTDAS
I'd go with Bose for the next Test but Sreesanth in general. Nice to see Dravid back in the runs as well.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
Bose v/s Sreesanth: Feedback?

Bose is taller, more powerfully built, has been in action for a longer time and in the wickets. Not to mention, for an aggressive bowler (not so much fast), he's more a thinking bowler than a punching one. Sreesanth, on the other hand, is much faster, moves the ball better and forces the wickets rather than depend on conditions. The real advantage is that on a day that isn't good for the four-man bowling attack, he can save several runs and maybe even score a few in the tail. An overall consideration will put Sreesanth ahead, but on bowling alone, and on current form, Bose seems a better pick.
I am not sure about this one. He has an impressive First Class record which shows he can do it in India and his five wickets against a strong Sri Lanka A team shows he can do it in England. His line and length is talked up as the stuff of legends and his only problem is controlling the new ball. He could be an effective first change bowler once the uncontrollable swing of the new ball has worn off. Such a line and length bowler could be required to stem the flow of runs on a flat track like the Oval.

However, Sreesanth has pace and swing, two aspects which work regardless of the track. He is more of the wickettaker and can use both the old and new ball. He will also be wanting to redeem himself after the last Test but should he be dropped out of discipline issues?

I would pick Sreesanth because on a good day, his good spells can be match winning and flurries of wickets will be the key in the Oval Test.
 

stumpski

International Captain
Yuvraj hasn't had much of a chance in this game - only given three overs (came on after Dhoni) and put in at # 7. He'd only faced 17 balls when the declaration came. But no doubt his chance will come in the ODIs.
 

killerkev06

Cricket Spectator
Boss is still new to International Cricket , everyone knows what Sreesanth did in South Africa .. Indian selectore believe in him ..
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Boss is still new to International Cricket , everyone knows what Sreesanth did in South Africa .. Indian selectore believe in him ..
And how old is SreeSanth to International Cricket ? Yeah I know what he did in two tests in SA and I also know what he did in WI and aht he has done so far in the current series.

@Manee - Speed is useless so is swing without control. Sreesanth isn't consistent enough to deserve this kind of gauranteed spot in Indian team. I am not for dropping in the next test because of his performance, but he deserves to be dropped for his bafoonary in a test match. Only then he will learn. I was watching the highlights and his behaviour was a disgrace.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Sreesanth is clearly the superior choice on bowling alone. On the other hand, his behavior and performance at Trent Bridge were pathetic. Dravid and Prasad should take a good look and see if he has learned his lesson and is likely to make a real contribution without the drama (based on his bowling in the nets and any talks they may have had). Trust them to take the right decision. In case Sreesanth gets selected, I'll be backing him all the way. Otherwise, let's hope Bose finds his bearings at The Oval.
 

adharcric

International Coach
May I ask, when and where ?
Obviously, not live. Some Ranji/Duleep/Irani matches in the recent season.

Bose has good control and is an intelligent bowler but Sreesanth is far more proven in test cricket. Can't really see Bose troubling the English batsmen in batting-friendly conditions too much. I'd love to have him get selected and prove me wrong, but as of now Sreesanth is the better choice on bowling alone, provided that he has been practicing earnestly in the nets this week. Otherwise, he needs to be taught a lesson and Bose should get a cap. Only Dravid and Prasad really know what Sreesanth is looking like right now.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Obviously, not live. Some Ranji/Duleep/Irani matches in the recent season.

Bose has good control and is an intelligent bowler but Sreesanth is far more proven in test cricket. Can't really see Bose troubling the English batsmen in batting-friendly conditions too much.
I guess you have watched him in a domestic match and you were on the stadium. I must say you are comparing apples and oranges, its not a valid comparison to claim that Bose is inferior to SreeSanth. Besides, speed doesn't matter much, If Bose can move the ball with control, I am sure he will get more success than SreeSanth, at least in English Conditions.

SreeSanth is obviously more proven(or unproven) in tests because he is the only one who has played test.
 

pietersenrocks

U19 Vice-Captain
Obviously, not live. Some Ranji/Duleep/Irani matches in the recent season.

Bose has good control and is an intelligent bowler but Sreesanth is far more proven in test cricket. Can't really see Bose troubling the English batsmen in batting-friendly conditions too much. I'd love to have him get selected and prove me wrong, but as of now Sreesanth is the better choice on bowling alone, provided that he has been practicing earnestly in the nets this week. Otherwise, he needs to be taught a lesson and Bose should get a cap. Only Dravid and Prasad really know what Sreesanth is looking like right now.
well,Sreesanth gotta b dropped now.His body language looking poor.he's not even playing his natural game and concentrating on mind games more than that.If he keeps behaving lik dis his career vil b ended in few years and da young lads lik Bose,Sharma shud get a chance now .. instead ov him.Sreesanth needs 2 learn a gud lesson first and then play his mind games.All batsmen in da 2nd innings were laughing on him,he was bowling poorly and dint even got a wicket.If he's looking gud in nets .. only then he can get a chance.Otherwise,if he's keep behaving da way he was behaving in da 2nd innings.he shud b dropped.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
OK, I'm back from hols and missed all but Day 1 of the Trent Bridge test. How did Karthik & Jaffer add 140+ on Day 2 in what were supposed to be swinging conditions? Did they bat wonderfully or did we bowl badly? And did Tremlett's figures flatter him or did he really bowl much better than I originally expected?

The odd bit that I've heard or read suggests that the Indians adjusted their games well to play the swinging ball - if so, then presumably we're looking at Broad in place of Anderson or Sidebottom for the Oval . Where presumably Bell will follow Strauss' & Collingwood's lead by making a place-saving half century.
 
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pietersenrocks

U19 Vice-Captain
the ball wasnt swinging dat much .. wen Jaffer&Karthik put on 142 for d first wicket......N' give da FAG Four ideal platform .. 2 get bak in form......ball swung on d first day.....cos ov bad weather and conditions got better and better for batting.......yeah,may be .. Broad vil get a chance.....but then .. Jimmy vil b dropped.....cos Sidebottom,Tremlett bowled so well at The Oval.....Sidebottom dint got much reward .. but he was getting swing regularly..as usual..I think England shud go with an unchanged side .. or replace Jimmy by Broad.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Was that supposed to be a joke?

Anyway, a local newspaper (don't recollect which one, I get four on Sundays) said that Gautam Gambhir had a tough time out there initially, dropped by a slip once, then rapped on the pads, played and missed, but then went on to make 67 easily. Not something to get him into the XI for the final match, but they have to keep him active in the tour so that in case they revert to a proper opening partnership, he's ready.

Someone mentioned Yuvraj Singh on a holiday in the middle- with the Lankans scoring more without the loss of too many wickets, we are now seeing him as a left-arm spinner. This was something they should have tried in the first two matches as well, although that's a closed case now. With three seamers and a spinner likely to make the XI on a flat track, Yuvraj's bowling will be more relevant than his (or any other middle-order batsman's) batting in the team.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Kumble's having a rough day- dare I say, taken to the cleaners by the giant Vandort and the ex-Test regular Samaraweera. Economy rate is well over five, while Yuvraj, bowlign two overs less, hasn't been scored off so much.

The India A team is having a walk in the park, crushing the weak African teams (or second teams?) in nearly every match. They'll get ambushed when SL A land in Kenya.
 
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