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***Official*** India in Australia 2014-5
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cnerd123
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They could bat till Lunch tomorrow and still win in 4 days tbh.
viriya
International Captain
I never said SL would do better.. don't get so conscious - just pointing out that Ind finds a way of not picking their best bowling side when they go overseas.. there's always some newbie they bring in to mentally scar.I'm all doom and gloom right now, but I love how the little Lankans are getting all ****y after winning a 2 test "series" overseas.
viriya
International Captain
On another note, I knew Adelaide was bad but didn't know it was "worse-than-SSC" bad:
Team records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
Team records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
OverratedSanity
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Can't really remember too many instances recently tbh. Pankaj deserved to be selected anyway, so he doesn't count.
OverratedSanity
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Wasim is an idiot. Our pacers being **** is something which is so basic and ingrained into our system that blaming it on them not getting angry enough is silly.
Adders
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Only 3 draws though out of 15 tests...........that's not bad at all.
uvelocity
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id bat a little bit in the morning anyway i reckon. still heaps of time left.
the big bambino
International Captain
Yes to both posts. Can't think of an Aussie player who has matured as admirably as Clarke. From doubts over his ability against pace and the short ball, criticisms over his lifestyle, concerns over his choice of girlfriends, talk that he wasn't liked amongst his peers, doubts over leadership and finally having to deal with the Hughes tragedy, Clarke has overcome all challenges. From the guy we all thought a bit aloof to a man that his country is proud of, it has been quite a journey.
Yeah kind of moving over to thinking India should play 5 bowlers. What do you think? When Bhuvi is available matching him with Ashwin, Ishant, Yadav and Karn gives them variety and batting depth.
viriya
International Captain
It's just my extended rant on Ind just putting no faith in Ashwin.. imo he is a rare genuine all-rounder but needs the backing of the selectors to not just be thrown in the trash can whenever Ind leaves the subcontinent.
OverratedSanity
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Ive always said Ashwin deserves more chances overseas, but your point about India feeding a debutant to the wolves was weird. Has never really happened.
Yeah cricinfo said Karn is only the second Indian spinner ever to debut away from home (I think that was it, it may have been away from subcontinent). No doubt there have been plenty of seam bowlers who got a test or two overseas and were never heard of again, but that seems only natural since conditions would mean they'd pick three seamers more often.
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Depends how lolworthy the 1st innings is but I think you are right. They may have a plan to rotate anyway in this series with the WC coming up.
viriya
International Captain
I was referring to Karn and Pankaj.. What's the point of picking Pankaj for 2 tests and ditching him? Either give him a good 5+ test run or don't do it at all. In the case of Karn - there really was no reason to pick him in the first place. You don't turn into Kumble or Warne just because you're in Australia.. now he might do well in the 4th innings but I guarantee you when Ind play in the subcontinent next they will go pick Ashwin/Ojha/Jadeja again.. this kind of selection just screws with career trajectory.. Ashwin is 28.. he should be played as much as possible in tests so that when he becomes 30+ he can lead the attack anywhere.. or Ojha.. or both.. point is the selectors are "spoilt" for choice when it comes to a bunch of mediocre to ok options and they are playing hot potato with them.
anil1405
International Captain
I'd take Karn over Jadeja. I don't want to see Jadeja anywhere near the test team in overseas conditions.
Regarding Ashwin, he is too experimental at times which doesn't go down well for the team. But yea considering the bigger picture, it doesn't sound good if the team is not showing faith in the best spinner we have right now.
Regarding Ashwin, he is too experimental at times which doesn't go down well for the team. But yea considering the bigger picture, it doesn't sound good if the team is not showing faith in the best spinner we have right now.
Cevno
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I do.
He could and should have had 3 wickets probably which is more than i can see Ashwin or Jadeja getting so far in the same conditions.
Jadeja would have kept it more tighter i guess, but it was a attacking move. While Ashwin is overrated on here in terms of his bowling frankly,
Teja.
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I'd have picked Ashwin but I see it as a blessing in disguise that he wasn't picked for Adelaide with two bowlers leaking 5 rpo. Ashwin's a massive momentum bowler, he pretty much never starts series badly and then recovers to bowl well and he was going to start badly here.
Cevno
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Jadeja has outperformed Ashwin both home and away for last 1 and half to 2 years if i am not wrong. Was certainly the case before England series.