The two positions are not inconsistent. Aus doing a good job today doesn't means this sort of score should be a given.Or if you knew anything about the bowlers playing for Australia in the series and their test and FC records over the same period.
No it's that all series when England have been bowled out cheaply, ie most every test, no credit is given to the bowling side. It was the same against NZ too. There's a recurring theme among England supporters on here that whenever the team gets rolled cheaply its always the batting and never attributable to the good bowling of their opponents.Don't really get Burgey's point. Is it a great Australian bowling performance (which I think he is suggesting?) or is it England's batting line-up poor like he infers with the 80 years unbeaten stuff?
He'd have bowled 10 oversImagine if it was Starc with 1/60.
Yep. Top bowlers would have gotten more movement. The movement is always there at Durham to some degree, that's just the nature of the ground. These Australian bowlers aren't proficient at extracting movement in foreign conditions - which isn't saying they're ****e it's just different conditions and what bowlers are used to. Philander or the spot fixing cheats would have took 4-40 off 20 on an average day against this shower.OK, this has been a world class performance by your boys and any side in the the history of the game would be grateful to reach the dizzy heights of 214 for 9.
More realistically, Aus have bowled professionally in blameless conditions where a serious test line-up would have finished the day at 280 for 4. England of course have simply continued doing what they've done for most of the last 20 months, which is why some of us are utterly contemptuous of the lazy ****s. I'd be slightly more convinced about Australia's brilliance if our batters hadn't done exactly the same against New Zealand both home and away earlier this year.
I'm suggesting all series, nay all summer, the soap dodgers give no credit to opposing bowlers. Is it that difficult to understand?The two positions are not inconsistent. Aus doing a good job today doesn't means this sort of score should be a given.
Or are you seriously suggesting this is a decent batting performance?
Oh stop it Burgey, there's been plenty of Propst given to the Oz bowlers, except by a couple of posters. You get that with every nation in every sport, people not giving oppo any credit.No it's that all series when England have been bowled out cheaply, ie most every test, no credit is given to the bowling side. It was the same against NZ too. There's a recurring theme among England supporters on here that whenever the team gets rolled cheaply its always the batting and never attributable to the good bowling of their opponents.
But you've always been a fairly ****house sporting country, so I can understand it to some extent.
apparently, Jimmy on strike, probably worth itLyon worth a punt last over?
It's largely the same when we skittle your lot, but then that happens so often that you just get used to itNo it's that all series when England have been bowled out cheaply, ie most every test, no credit is given to the bowling side. It was the same against NZ too. There's a recurring theme among England supporters on here that whenever the team gets rolled cheaply its always the batting and never attributable to the good bowling of their opponents.
But you've always been a fairly ****house sporting country, so I can understand it to some extent.