*Official* Fifth Test at the SCG

[Spikey]

Langer is pathetic. What coaching credentials does he have? The techniques of both Ponting and Clarke have regressed since his appointment

BUT HE SCORED MANY RUNS IN MANY TESTS HE MUST BE A GOOD COACH

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[Spark]

Langer is pathetic. What coaching credentials does he have? The techniques of both Ponting and Clarke have regressed since his appointment

This is a fair point.

What happened to the soft-hands Clarke? There were flashes of his best today but we've needed far more than flashes far earlier.

 

[howardj]

I don't buy that, no matter how hard you guys try to convince me.

Fair enough, difference of opinion.

But man, nearly everyone on here to a man, was shouting from the rooftops about Hauritiz and North once the Gabba team was picked.

To be down a spinner (for the whole series) and a number six (for the first two Tests) is a pretty big indictment on the panel.

These guys are meant to be experts.

 

[Prince EWS]

I still find it amazing that England have pretty much picked their best XI every single time (morgan-collingwood the only one in the air) while we've gone into every single match with at least 2 players who should not be there.

I didn't think they'd picked their best XI going into Brisbane and Adelaide, and I still don't.

 

[GotSpin]

I don't buy that, no matter how hard you guys try to convince me.

This isn't junior cricket where the kids are learning their trade, these guys all know how to play.

Yeah exactly, and therefore they're at the point in which the head honchos need to be responsible for bringing out the best from our players - Be it particular training methods, plans or the playing environment.

 

[Prince EWS]

This is a fair point.

What happened to the soft-hands Clarke? There were flashes of his best today but we've needed far more than flashes far earlier.

Flashes have often been the problem from him, actually.

 

[howardj]

Langer is pathetic. What coaching credentials does he have? The techniques of both Ponting and Clarke have regressed since his appointment

Langer is a 'yes man', a cheerleader, and a brown nose.

And his batting coaching sucks too.

 

[Craig]

7 hours of Ashes of demolition in the middle of the night.

Now for a bit of Sachin Tendulker vs Steyn to keep me going please.

Do you sleep, or are you the English version of PEWS, and therefore a ****?

 

[TumTum]

Fair enough, difference of opinion.

But man, nearly everyone on here to a man, was shouting from the rooftops about Hauritiz and North once the Gabba team was picked.

To be down a spinner (for the whole series) and a number six (for the first two Tests) is a pretty big indictment on the panel.

These guys are meant to be experts.

North had done well in the last Ashes, so selectors were within their right to give him another chance (and so did most of us here tbh, for the first 2 Tests anyway). Hauritz we all wanted to see dropped, and he was.

 

[Spark]

Flashes have often been the problem from him, actually.

Haha played.

I want the old Clarke back though. Personally for me that's been the biggest disappointment of the series.

Hauritz a few people wanted to see dropped... but not for Doherty. God no.

 

[howardj]

North had done well in the last Ashes, so selectors were within their right to give him another chance (and so did most of us here tbh, for the first 2 Tests anyway). Hauritz we all wanted to see dropped, and he was.

I, and others on here, vigorously disagreed with both.

And were proven correct.

Hauritz has a better average in AUstralia than what Swan has in Australia.

 

[Spikey]

North had done well in the last Ashes, so selectors were within their right to give him another chance (and so did most of us here tbh, for the first 2 Tests anyway). Hauritz we all wanted to see dropped, and he was.

most of us had had enough of North by India and a few by NZ actually. Pretty much no-one wanted him in for the first test but we just accepted it would happen cause of that ton. north definitely did not deserve to get as many games as he did

Meanwhile only fools wanted Hauritz dropped.

 

[vicleggie]

I don't buy that, no matter how hard you guys try to convince me.

This isn't junior cricket where the kids are learning their trade, these guys all know how to play.

whatever job you have, you're ALWAYS learning your craft.
infact, at the top level, the amount of preparation is basically the difrerence between the winner and loser. Everyone at this level basically has talent, its those who do the extra yards that get the advantage. See Tendulkar. Meticulous preparation, that's why he's been able to stay at the top for so long. See Hayden- always had all the talent in the world, rubbish at the start, then got very serious/ruthless and EXCELLED.

Its not like these guys can just rock up and play. If you're facing a bloody good side, it doesnt matter how much cricket you've played, you have to be in the right mindset.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I still find it amazing that England have pretty much picked their best XI every single time (morgan-collingwood the only one in the air) while we've gone into every single match with at least 2 players who should not be there.

Awta

Some of the selections by Australia have been baffling. If Hauritz was to be dropped at least pick a better bowler than him.

Smith is not a test player yet, he may become one in time but at present his bowling is ordinary and he is just a bits and pieces player, well suited to one day cricket but not a test match.

Why has Hilfenhaus been persevered with and Bollinger who in all honesty was no worse in his one match at Adelaide on a road was dumped?

 

[GotSpin]

North had done well in the last Ashes, so selectors were within their right to give him another chance (and so did most of us here tbh, for the first 2 Tests anyway). Hauritz we all wanted to see dropped, and he was.

Fairly sure Howard, Social, myself and a bunch of other guys here were calling for his head a long time ago,

 

[Spark]

whatever job you have, you're ALWAYS learning your craft.
infact, at the top level, the amount of preparation is basically the difrerence between the winner and loser. Everyone at this level basically has talent, its those who do the extra yards that get the advantage. See Tendulkar. Meticulous preparation, that's why he's been able to stay at the top for so long. See Hayden- always had all the talent in the world, rubbish at the start, then got very serious/ruthless and EXCELLED.

Its not like these guys can just rock up and play. If you're facing a bloody good side, it doesnt matter how much cricket you've played, you have to be in the right mindset.

This. See Flower and England for an obvious example.

 

[Spark]

Awta

Some of the selections by Australia have been baffling. If Hauritz was to be dropped at least pick a better bowler than him.

Smith is not a test player yet, he may become one in time but at present his bowling is ordinary and he is just a bits and pieces player, well suited to one day cricket but not a test match.

Why has Hilfenhaus been persevered with and Bollinger who in all honesty was no worse in his one match at Adelaide on a road was dumped?

because bollinger creates too much rough for swann apparently

 

[GotSpin]

Langer is a 'yes man', a cheerleader, and a brown nose.

And his batting coaching sucks too.

Surely with the dreadful batting performances displayed by us for a long time he needs to go

 

[morgieb]

Raining hard where I live. Let it rain tomorrow, too!

 

[TumTum]

Fairly sure Howard, Social, myself and a bunch of other guys here were calling for his head a long time ago,

As did I, but I was willing to give him a chance to play this series (as did many others, can't be bothered digging them up).