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*Official* English Football Season 2016-17

Uppercut

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sledger said:
The travel times between games if the thing is hosted actoss Canada, the US and Mexico could be horrific. For players and fans.
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No worse than hosting it in Russia. Or in the USA alone, actually, given the concentration of its population on opposite coasts.
 
sledger

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Uppercut said:
No worse than hosting it in Russia. Or in the USA alone, actually, given the concentration of its population on opposite coasts.
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Yeah indeed, but that sounds to me more like a reason for avoiding tournaments over there altogether rather than a reason for justifying a world cup of "the North/Central Americas".

I'm not against the idea necessarily, but it would have to be organised extremely carefully, and I don't have any faith it would be.

The timetabling and locations of various Copa America games last year was awful, for instance. I forget who it was, but Tim Vickery had a big moan about how some teams had to play a match, get on a flight for a few thousand miles, and play another match. Unsurprisingly, some of these teams played very poorly iirc.

That's only the player/team side of the coin too. For the average fan the cost of getting to the USA at all would cost an arm and a leg. But to fly from coast to coast would cost as much as it would to fly to London or something. No good. Exactly the opposite of what (in my mind at least) the World Cup is meant to represent.
 
GIMH

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If you're going to have these tournaments spread all over the show geographically, then can they not go back to the old way of having each group in a specific area, like two venues per group? Granted with the size of America you could still wind up with big travel between games but it would scale it down.
 
Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
GIMH said:
If you're going to have these tournaments spread all over the show geographically, then can they not go back to the old way of having each group in a specific area, like two venues per group? Granted with the size of America you could still wind up with big travel between games but it would scale it down.
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No because that would be sensible.
 
Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Because Wales didn't have a professional league until 1992. Most of the top Welsh clubs have been members of the FA and the Football League since they were founded. The Welsh FA allowed dual membership so some clubs like Merthyr Tydfil were able to compete in Europe after winning the Welsh Cup despite competing in the English league.

Scottish clubs were also members of the FA in the 1870s and 1880s - Queens Park were beaten FA Cup finalists and Rangers reached an FA Cup semi final in the 1880s, however the Scottish Football Association forbade its clubs from being members of the FA in the late 1880s and the Scottish Football League was founded in 1890.

edit: geography and history plays a part as well, English football's heartlands are its industrial towns in Lancashire and the Midlands, which isn't overly far for Welsh teams to get to (for instance, there's a rivalry between Tranmere and Wrexham), whereas Scotland is much more distant. Cardiff, for instance, is 120 miles from Birmingham, 150 from London and 190 from Manchester, North Welsh towns are pretty much on Manchester and Liverpool's doorstep.

Glasgow on the other hand is 100 miles away from Carlisle, and you have to travel through another 120 or so miles of **** all in Cumbria before you hit Manchester. The travel distance is the reason why Rangers were eliminated in the FA Cup semi, the first game was drawn and the team couldn't travel down for a replay so forfeitted. Travelling to play English teams was much less feasible for us, so we set up our own competition (bearing in mind this is the era where Glasgow is one of only 5 European cities with a population of over a million, so crowds and interest can be sustained locally on a massive scale.)
 
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Furball

Furball

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Berwick is Scottish :ph34r:

Gretna used to play in the English leagues, I'm not sure if they went back there after going bust and getting thrown out of the SFL.
 
flibbertyjibber

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TNS play in Oswestry who used to be in the English non league system. Not arsed to check if the ground is in Wales or England though. The former secretary of Oswestry Town was called James Bond.
 
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