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*Official* English Football Season 2015-16

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Really feels like it'll happen when the completely talentless ball of energy at CF shins in an overhead kick in a 1-0 win.

All about their defence at the minute.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
PosTeamPGDPts
1Leicester38+3283
2Tottenham38+3978
3Liverpool38+1970
4West Ham38+2068
5Man City38+2466
6Arsenal38+1766
7Southampton38+1461
8Man Utd38+657
9Stoke38-555
10Bournemouth38-552
11Chelsea38+051
12Watford38+051
13Everton38+548
14West Brom38-1545
15Swansea38-1438
16Newcastle38-2738
17Crystal Palace38-1635
18Norwich38-2631
19Sunderland38-2729
20Aston Villa38-4120
Well that clearly won't happen :laugh:
 

cpr

International Coach


Was my call. You know its bad when its blind optimism to think you'll pip West Ham for 5th....
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Tbh, Flores, bilic and Howe are all pretty much being ignored for incredible jobs, because of the foxes thing.
 

cpr

International Coach
Reckon most did, even if they won't admit it.

Thing is, I doubt Pep would've gone for Arsenal. I just don't see Pep as a build a dynasty type of person. Look at the way he walked from Barca and now Bayern, he seems to want to move to the next title in another country, which seems very egocentric. People will counter he built *that* Barca side, but thats because he was manager of Barca B, and they moved on with/before him to the main team (also helps he was blessed with such immense talent to work with - doesn't matter how great a coach you are, that raw potential to work with may only come together once a generation. He can take great credit in their development, but you could probably have put a monkey in charge and Messi/Xavi/Iniesta would've come through as great players).

As such, I think he'd have only taken an offer where he would be able to invest quickly and heavily in key players he wants, to add to an already strong base. For all Arsenals talk of huge war chest, I just can't see their board sanctioning the type of splurge Guardiola may want, more so if Arsene was given a directorship after retiring a la Fergie. If he took the Arsenal job, he'd have had City, Chelsea and possibly Utd all investing heavily too this summer, making it harder for his Arsenal to succeed. Whereas City and Chelsea would've given him the cash, and both have the base squad there already to make a title challenge a reality (Utd, for all the money we'd give him, don't have the base squad). You put Pep in City or Chelsea you'd probably expect next season to be those two as the main title contenders, with Pep's team winning. Put him in Arsenal (or Utd), and it becomes a 3 way with Pep possibly causing an upset and cementing his reputation - sounds tempting, but truthfully I think he'd rather take the better odds of success with City/Chelsea. Quite frankly I don't see Pep being the type to take a job where it'll take 3-4 years of hard work to build a title winning team when he can take one that has a great chance to win season 1, in 3-4 years time I expect him to be in Italy trying for a title there.


Theres probably a huge bunch of sour grapes hanging in there, because I won't deny I'd much rather have Pep at OT than van Gaal or Mourinho, but even if he had come to Utd, there'd have still been a portion of me that wondered how long he'd stay for, and how much time would he dedicate to building our future rather than instant success. I just get the feeling that winning title after title and cementing his legacy is Guardiola's aim, and once Chelsea and City offered him the chance to do it in England, both Utd and Arsenal could've offered him the world and he wouldn't have took it.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
People will counter he built *that* Barca side, but thats because he was manager of Barca B, and they moved on with/before him to the main team (also helps he was blessed with such immense talent to work with - doesn't matter how great a coach you are, that raw potential to work with may only come together once a generation. He can take great credit in their development, but you could probably have put a monkey in charge and Messi/Xavi/Iniesta would've come through as great players).
This argument gets brought up about Guardiola all the time and it's complete crap. He took a team that finished 3rd the season before, absolutely miles off the pace, sold Ronaldinho and Deco, added a right back and a 21 year old centre half that had barely kicked a ball at Man Utd and within a season turned them into one of the greatest sides football's ever seen.

Barcelona were also a shambles for 2 years after Pep left until Enrique took charge.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Juve 2-0 up then.

Can't believe this is a last 16 tie, Juve and Bayern are the best 2 sides in Europe after Barcelona IMO.
 

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