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*Official* English Football Season 2014-15
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Meh, people have weird opinions on goalkeepers. They're so tough to compare. Sometimes you see a save that looks incredible at first, then on replay you realise a keeper with a different technique would have just sidestepped a yard and caught it. All the freely-available data on them is pretty worthless too.
The prank-keepers are easy to spot but comparing any two decent keepers is mostly just guesswork.
The prank-keepers are easy to spot but comparing any two decent keepers is mostly just guesswork.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Johnny Lukic was a very solid keeper.
Seems incredible that an English goalie who won top flight championships with two different clubs (which must put him in very select company; I can't think of any others off the top of my head) never played for England. Especially nowadays when just playing in the Prem seems to be enough for a cap. Sadly his peak co-incided with Shilton, Clemence, Woods, Bailey and latterly Martyn and Safe Hands himself.
Seaman was probably more agile and could maybe pull off the odd miracle save that would've been beyond Lukic, but Johnny was far less prone to the **** up. Furball's post notwithstanding.
Gun to head I'd take Seaman, but Jennings was better than both. Spud ****er tho he may be.
Seems incredible that an English goalie who won top flight championships with two different clubs (which must put him in very select company; I can't think of any others off the top of my head) never played for England. Especially nowadays when just playing in the Prem seems to be enough for a cap. Sadly his peak co-incided with Shilton, Clemence, Woods, Bailey and latterly Martyn and Safe Hands himself.
Seaman was probably more agile and could maybe pull off the odd miracle save that would've been beyond Lukic, but Johnny was far less prone to the **** up. Furball's post notwithstanding.
Gun to head I'd take Seaman, but Jennings was better than both. Spud ****er tho he may be.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Probably doesn't help that he spent his peak at Rangers.
Goram was better than Woods though.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
European ban presumably helped? Seems to me that, Gazza aside, once English clubs were back in Europe less of our talent crossed the border. Could be wrong.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Yeah, the European ban was a big help in attracting the top English talent north of the border. In 1986 we signed Butcher, the England captain and beat off Manchester United in the process. Absolutely unthinkable now. Although by the time English clubs came back into Europe we'd moved into signing more Scottish players anyway because having loads of English players wasn't a good idea with the 3 foreigner rule. In the summer of 1991 we seemed to embark on a program of selling off most of our English talent and replacing them with a Scottish equivalent.
Hillsborough also helped. We'd modernised our ground in the late 70s after the Ibrox disaster in 1971, so in the 1980s Rangers had the best, most modern ground in British football by a long way. Post Hillsborough, the Taylor Report mandated that clubs up and down the country spend tens of millions of pounds dragging their dilapidated ****holes into the 20th century - money that Rangers didn't need to spend and could afford to spend on players and salaries.
We really ought to have had a good run at the European Cup/Champions League in the decade between 1986 and 1996. Under Souness, I reckon we were hindered by the 3 foreigner rule. But a more ambitious appointment after Souness went down to Liverpool and I think, with the right Scottish signings (why we never signed Gary McAllister from Leeds I'll never know) and the financial muscle we had in the early 90s and we could have had a really good run at the big one.
Hillsborough also helped. We'd modernised our ground in the late 70s after the Ibrox disaster in 1971, so in the 1980s Rangers had the best, most modern ground in British football by a long way. Post Hillsborough, the Taylor Report mandated that clubs up and down the country spend tens of millions of pounds dragging their dilapidated ****holes into the 20th century - money that Rangers didn't need to spend and could afford to spend on players and salaries.
We really ought to have had a good run at the European Cup/Champions League in the decade between 1986 and 1996. Under Souness, I reckon we were hindered by the 3 foreigner rule. But a more ambitious appointment after Souness went down to Liverpool and I think, with the right Scottish signings (why we never signed Gary McAllister from Leeds I'll never know) and the financial muscle we had in the early 90s and we could have had a really good run at the big one.
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