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*Official* English Football Season 2013-14
- Thread starter GIMH
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I'm surprised by this. I would have thought that most Englishman who don't hate Liverpool would admire a passionate one club man who has given great service for his club and country for the past 15 years. I would say that in Australia he is the most respected (and close to favourite) English footballer in the world today.
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
Yeah, came here to say this.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
To admire and to like something are not the same thing.
Tom Halsey
International Coach
To paraphrase Clarkson, that's a bit like saying that syphilis is the best of the ***ually transmitted diseases.
Admittedly much of my dislike for Gerrard is that he plays for Liverpool, but tbh I don't think I'd like him much anyway, for reasons that are admittedly in part outside of his control. The way the English press write about him you would think he was the best midfielder of his generation, which frankly he just wasn't. Not his fault obviously, but it really is very tedious. It's also fair to say though that whilst his list of ****ish acts are far shorter and less serious than the lists of many footballers, it does exist.
I also disagree with GIMH about how his transfer request fiasco doesn't impact on the question of his loyalty. I agree in so far as it's really a relatively minor issue but hypothetically if Wayne Rooney was to end up spending as long at Man Utd as Gerrard has done at Liverpool absolutely no-one sensible would consider him loyal for it. Loyalty is more than just staying at one club for a length of time and handing in a transfer request is disloyal, even if it's justified - I don't actually think 100% loyalty is a good thing anyway so I wouldn't use it as a stick to beat him with.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I agree with all Halsey has said here, though I do not possess the intrinsic dislike for Liverpool that he does. Even if we are to accept Gerrard's loyalty, however, I don't see why this should make me like him more. I can see how this might make Liverpool fans like him more, but as someone who has no affiliation with Liverpool whatsoever it's another of these things which is perhaps admirable but doesn't make me warm to him. See also: John Terry/Chelsea.
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I would have thought that the vast majority of Australians would nominate either Rooney or Beckham with Gerrard hardly getting a mention
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
Becks is retired now though.
Barely know a soul who likes Rooney tbh. And that includes United supporters, haha.
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Yeah but we are talking about Australians and Gerrard/Liverpool have barely made a decent headline here for years until a couple of months agoBecks is retired now though.
Beckham is almost a household name everywhere and I wouldn't bet that most Australians know that he has retired whilst Rooney is the best of the rest
Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
We remember them today, you should never go to a game of football and not come back.
Whites played Hartlepool away that day and a copper said to one of ours, "your mates from Liverpool have kicked off big time at Sheffield Wednesday"
Even then history was being rewritten. A national disgrace, for 23 years.
RIP.
Whites played Hartlepool away that day and a copper said to one of ours, "your mates from Liverpool have kicked off big time at Sheffield Wednesday"
Even then history was being rewritten. A national disgrace, for 23 years.
RIP.
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Mate, LA Galaxy (i.e. Beckham) drew 83,000 to Stadium Australia
Not saying that Liverpool isn't a massive team or Gerrard a great club player but we're talking a whole different level here
Cabinet96
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Manchester United offering Toni Kroos £260,000 a week to join | Football | theguardian.com
Do United plan on actually leaving any money aside for transfer fees? It kind of epitomises how the club have turned for the worse this season. Having to offer players around the the 300k a week mark so they sign/don't leave.
Do United plan on actually leaving any money aside for transfer fees? It kind of epitomises how the club have turned for the worse this season. Having to offer players around the the 300k a week mark so they sign/don't leave.
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BTW Cabs, have you read Soccernomics? I think it'd be very much your thing.
I ask because one of their findings is that clubs should spend far more on wages and far less on transfer fees.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
BBC Sport - Aston Villa suspend Lambert assistants Culverhouse & Karsa
What are the odds on it being something related to betting?
What are the odds on it being something related to betting?
Cabinet96
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Nah, will add it to the long list of books I want to read after my exams are done. Maybe 260k isn't a lot for him, I don't know, but it just seems quite excessive to me. Surely that's about twice as much players of his ilk usually get? He's only on 65k a week at Bayern where Ribery and Robben are the highest paid player at 165k.
Marco Reus is on 60k a month btw, which is about eight times less than Ashley Young. But I guess that's an odd example.