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*Official* English Football Season 2013-14

Eds

Eds

International Debutant
sledger said:
Is it really that important that Gerrard didn't make contact with his elbow? As mentioned a page or so back, players have been sent off for lashing out without making contact with their intended target.
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I think it is here because it's so much harder to establish whether it was intentional or not, and presumably the players missing their target are sent off due to their obviously malicious intent. If they do end up missing when it's so difficult to judge then I'd rather give them the benefit of the doubt.
 
Ikki

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
sledger said:
Is it really that important that Gerrard didn't make contact with his elbow? As mentioned a page or so back, players have been sent off for lashing out without making contact with their intended target.
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If Gerrard had ****ed his elbow and made a concerted (even if concealed) effort to connect, I'd say it wouldn't have made as much of a difference. But the reality is that when you jump high and challenge you automatically raise your arms for stability. It didn't connect and they bounced off each other. The fall from that height was more dangerous than anything else.

I can't see how it should even be compared to a tackle that clearly has intent to injure. It wasn't malicious, just a bit clumsy. The real reason it has gained traction is that English star players tend to get leniency from the officials (as has been exemplified by this week's action) and that's become an excuse to exaggerate what happened here.

From what I've read they're best mates and Gerrard also apologised assuring Barry it wasn't intentional at the end also. It's not in the same hemisphere as the Mirallas incidents. That it was a yellow is debatable, but that's hardly a game-changing issue compared to a potential red card (or two yellows) and injuring one or two of our players.
 
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Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Eds said:
I think it is here because it's so much harder to establish whether it was intentional or not, and presumably the players missing their target are sent off due to their obviously malicious intent. If they do end up missing when it's so difficult to judge then I'd rather give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Regardless of intent, it was dangerous, and Gerrard should have been booked.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Uppercut said:
Yeah it's not even the big teams. Hernandez or Januzaj would never have gotten away with it. It's just because he's Wayne Rooney and fellating him is the English national sport.
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Yeah, hard not to think there's something in that.

I remember a decade or so back when another England striker (and national captain at the time) kicked Neil Lennon in the head and was essentially given a small present and a pat on the back by the FA.
 
Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
BoyBrumby said:
Yeah, hard not to think there's something in that.

I remember a decade or so back when another England striker (and national captain at the time) kicked Neil Lennon in the head and was essentially given a small present and a pat on the back by the FA.
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And rightly so.
 
Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal: Andre Villas-Boas claims north London derby could put neighbours in negative spin - Telegraph

Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas believes beating Arsenal has put Arsène Wenger’s side into a negative spiral that will be almost impossible to escape; and left Spurs with the confidence to finish above them.

Villas-Boas refused to accept a place in the top four is all but assured after moving up to third in the Premier League, seven points clear of their north London rivals.
But he does hope the result will have a destructive effect on Arsenal’s chances of making the kind of late-season comeback that enabled them to overtake Tottenham last year.
“It’s not a big enough margin yet for us to be completely safe but what we think is that it can have a direct effect on their motivation,” Villas-Boas said.
“On ours too of course – and we have a difficult game against Liverpool coming up – but particularly on them. We are on an upward spiral in terms of confidence and they are on a negative spiral in terms of results. To get out of that negative spiral is extremely difficult.”
Spurs have made no secret of their ambition to return to Champions League football but Villas-Boas believes that achieving it this season would be crucial at a time when the club are making bold plans for a new stadium and looking to force their way into the European elite.

“It’s vital for the club and what they want to build in the future,” Villas-Boas said. “This club is taking massive steps in terms of investment in its structure and in players too. It’s everybody’s ambition to be there. It would mean the club would be propelled into a big club in England for the future.”
For Arsenal, who are five points adrift of fourth-placed Chelsea, this result puts them in serious danger of missing out on the Champions League group stages for the first time in 15 years with even Wenger admitting that he has a tough task ahead.
“It will be a massive challenge. Massive,” he said. “I said before the game we couldn’t drop these points and I maintain that now.
"We had the best defensive record in the league away from home until today but once you are 2-0 down in a big game like that you make it difficult for yourself.
"It’s frustrating because we put so much effort in and we lost the game when we were on top. At the moment we were 2-0 down we should have been 2-0 up. We were not efficient in the zones where it matters – at the front and at the back.”
Tottenham saw both Emmanuel Adebayor and Moussa Dembélé go off injured but Villas-Boas insists both will be fit to face Inter Milan in the Europa League on Thursday and claims his team are now full of self-belief.
“Playing all these big games can give us all a lift. The players become better, the squad becomes better and more experienced. But we keep our feet on the floor.
"I’ve seen so many shifts in league positions at the end of the season – so you can't really stop, you have to continue.”
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sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
"I do like Flamini in that position in front of the two defenders". Yeah, that is generally where defensive midfielders play, berk.
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I understand that Arsenal haven't been performing at 100%, but wtf are ITV going on about when they say this is ample opportunity for Arsenal to go hell for leather? I'd much rather they saved "their ruthless side" for a match that could go either way that is really really important, not a match that should basically be a dead rubber against crap oppo.
 
Cabinet96

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
sledger said:
I understand that Arsenal haven't been performing at 100%, but wtf are ITV going on about when they say this is ample opportunity for Arsenal to go hell for leather? I'd much rather they saved "their ruthless side" for a match that could go either way that is really really important, not a match that should basically be a dead rubber against crap oppo.
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Haha, yeah. I thought they could've been more clinical, but you could tell they were keeping a bit of gas in the tank for the weekend. No bad thing.
 
Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
sledger said:
I understand that Arsenal haven't been performing at 100%, but wtf are ITV going on about when they say this is ample opportunity for Arsenal to go hell for leather? I'd much rather they saved "their ruthless side" for a match that could go either way that is really really important, not a match that should basically be a dead rubber against crap oppo.
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They employ Ian Wright, why are you expecting any intelligence?
 
sledger

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Apparently Chelsea didn't manage a single shot on target all match against Basel, and only had two attempts on goal. That is pretty damn poor, whichever way you slice it. If only they had a fantastic creative midfielder at their disposal somewhere...
 
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